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    Default TMM disabled by default in WIN7?

    Hi!

    I remember a great boot tweak for vista was to disable TMM, but I can't find TMM in windows 7. Is this disabled by default, or is it found somewhere else? Boot is alittle slow, you see.

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: TMM disabled by default in WIN7?

    TMM doesn't exists in Windows 7 anymore. The System was improved to not need such process.

    - Every 3 days or so, Windows perform a boot optimization.
    - If you just install Win7, prefetch is probably packed with setup files instead of your program and boot files. it will take time to have Windows to clean it up, or you can empty the folder yourself (C:\Windows\Prefetch), and restart your computer to have that folder slowly populated and once teh boot optimization passes, Windows 7 will boot faster.
    - Drivers - Sometimes badly done drivers (Creative products for instance), slows down Windows boot. you cant' do anything about that.
    - Defragmentation. Run Windows built-in defragment or your prefer defragmentation tool (they are all the same) - If you have a SSD drive - DO NOT defrag your drive.
    - Disabling service only frees a few kilo-bytes of RAM, and provide no performance increase. The only thing it provide is a performance DECREASE and/or crippling the OS. The idea of services is to run a function of a program on a 'event call' so that the program doesn't run continuously on the back.
    - AVG anti-virus among other anti-virus programs are known to slow down your boot of your OS. I suggest Microsoft Security Essential virus/malware/spyware removal software. It's free via Microsoft.com - http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/?mkt=en-us (it's avilible in 64-bit format)
    - Deleting fonts in Windows 7 won't help to anything as it doesn't laod all teh fonts at boot up. The new engine form Vista and improved in Win7, render this "font pre-loading" form XP not needed.
    - If you have an Intel 4500XHD GPU or any dedicated GPU that is more powerful than a Geforce 6150, then leave Aero enabled - as it uses the GPU to render teh interface and not your CPU... this boost performance.
    - Enable write cage on your HDD also can help a bit - Open Device Manager > Do to your HDD >and go under the apply tab and check both check boxes.
    - If you have 2GB or more of RAM - disabling page file won't provide you any performance increase as unlike XP, everything is on your RAM and not on your HDD.

    I don't know all the other possible tweak you may have peroformed to comment on, but keep in mind that Vista/Win7 IS NOT XP. Win7/Vista is a completely new core with very little similarities.
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    Default Re: TMM disabled by default in WIN7?

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodBytes View Post
    - Every 3 days or so, Windows perform a boot optimization.
    If it is like Vista, it may not. Vista waited for the machine to be idle for a certain amount of time before it would begin this process. And most laptops were never left idle long enough for this to kick in. That's why the procedure to force Vista to do the boot file defrag was so popular.

    From what I have been able to tell so far, Win7 has the same trait. If you don't leave the machine sit idle the boot defrag never happens. That's why I did a new writeup on how to force Win7 to do the boot defrag. The link to the post is in my signature line below. (Actually both are there, the one for Vista and the one for Win7. The process is the same, monitoring it is different for the two OS's. Under Win7 you can actually see a lot more of what is going on.)

    I just looked at the Task Scheduler and I didn't find ANY task that does the defrag -b, the only defrag there is the "regular one". I don't have a Vista machine to compare with and don't remember where that defrag -b item was in task scheduler.
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    Default Re: TMM disabled by default in WIN7?

    I leave my laptop on nearly 24/7 (sleep between changing class and trip to home - back to university, of course, but ON all the time when I am home, even if I use my desktop). I see no point in shutting down a computer, other than you are on a laptop, without being plug-in, and not using it for long period of time (sleep will drain battery, of course).

    A laptop should have no problem handling the heat it produces.
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    Default Re: TMM disabled by default in WIN7?

    Yeah, I suggest you leave your laptop on overnight and let it do its thing.

    And screw reboots.

    Sleep/ hibernate is the way to go.
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    Default Re: TMM disabled by default in WIN7?

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodBytes View Post
    - AVG anti-virus among other anti-virus programs are known to slow down your boot of your OS. I suggest Microsoft Security Essential virus/malware/spyware removal software. It's free via Microsoft.com - http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/?mkt=en-us (it's avilible in 64-bit format)
    I will definitely try this one, I have AVG and boot time is around 1minute, quite a few startup programs there, though.

    - If you have 2GB or more of RAM - disabling page file won't provide you any performance increase as unlike XP, everything is on your RAM and not on your HDD.
    This is something I am uncertain of. I have 8GB RAM and only 128MB pagefile and it works great.
    Actually when I upgraded to 8GB RAM I posted a thread here asking on how to use it and was referred to an article with tests on pagefile optimisation:http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...4911?artc_pg=1

    The tests they performed said that a VERY SMALL pagefile with a lot of RAM gave the best results in performance.

    And now, I have this 128MB pagefile and I constantly monitor RAM usage with a rainmeter plugin. When I have Thunderbird, Opera, GOM Player and FlashGet running for some time RAM usage will be around 4GB. Which means that with 2GB one needs a lot of pagefile to be safe.

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    Default Re: TMM disabled by default in WIN7?

    Wow GoodBytes great post! Apart from the driver thing, I didn't know any of that you wrote.

    Just one thing though. I'm using microsoft security essentials, and according to Registry Mechanic MSMPENG.EXE uses 21 seconds to start. That's MSE, right? It seems very slow to start, all the other processes take at THE MOST like 0,5 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana-Bob View Post
    Wow GoodBytes great post! Apart from the driver thing, I didn't know any of that you wrote.
    Sorry about that.. let me try to make myself more understandable:
    Some companies don't know how to make drivers properly, they make them big and bulky which makes them take some time to load. Because, all your drivers are loaded when Windows boot-up, it slows down that process.

    Just one thing though. I'm using microsoft security essentials, and according to Registry Mechanic MSMPENG.EXE uses 21 seconds to start. That's MSE, right? It seems very slow to start, all the other processes take at THE MOST like 0,5 seconds.
    MSMPENG.EXE is Windows defender, if I am not mistaken.
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    Default Re: TMM disabled by default in WIN7?

    No, when MSE is installed Defender is deactivated because MSE has Defender, or something alike, built in.. MSMPENG.exe is MSE and when i tried MSE that process often had a huge cpu usage, so i ditched mse... avast for great justice

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    Default Re: TMM disabled by default in WIN7?

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodBytes View Post
    Sorry about that.. let me try to make myself more understandable:
    Some companies don't know how to make drivers properly, they make them big and bulky which makes them take some time to load. Because, all your drivers are loaded when Windows boot-up, it slows down that process.
    I actually lol'ed! What I meant was that I had no previous knowledge of any of the things you said, apart from the driver thing. I wasn't being sarcastic.

    I see now my crap is syntax

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