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    Default Re: Defragmenting boot files under Win7

    Quote Originally Posted by LLS View Post
    Windows defrag utility does this just by using a short command. You just have to open the CMD with admin rights and then run "defrag C: -b".
    That is PRECISELY what the second command is in my batch file. However, for that task to complete properly it needs the list of startup files and the optimization info. That is what the first task in the batch file does. Actually what it does is to tell the system that it is idle and this in turn causes a preexisting task to get its signal to start up. It is that task that prepares the list and optimization info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScuderiaConchiglia View Post
    That is PRECISELY what the second command is in my batch file. However, for that task to complete properly it needs the list of startup files and the optimization info. That is what the first task in the batch file does. Actually what it does is to tell the system that it is idle and this in turn causes a preexisting task to get its signal to start up. It is that task that prepares the list and optimization info.

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    I think that this is needed under Vista, because when I had Vista installed I tried to run directly as I've listed before and didn't work out. Right now I'm running in Windows 7 and it defrags using the CMD without processing the iddle tasks previously.
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    Default Re: Defragmenting boot files under Win7

    Quote Originally Posted by LLS View Post
    I think that this is needed under Vista, because when I had Vista installed I tried to run directly as I've listed before and didn't work out. Right now I'm running in Windows 7 and it defrags using the CMD without processing the iddle tasks previously.
    The defrag test will always run, and if the idle tasks ever ran before (because you had run my batch or because the machine was allowed to sit idle long enough for the process to kick in on its own) the list of files and optimization info would already exist and would be used. That list is not destroyed after the defrag operation ends. Trouble is that list might not be fully up to date.

    So yes, the defrag might very well run without the first step. But there is really no point in skipping it, so that you are sure you have an up to date list of files and optimization info. It only takes a couple of minutes more and then you are certain of having a fully optimized boot defrag.

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    Default Re: Defragmenting boot files under Win7

    If you use SuperFetch, is this process needed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donaldc View Post
    If you use SuperFetch, is this process needed?
    Not related to SuperFetch at all. This organizes the files that are involved in the bootup process BEFORE SuperFetch even begins its work.

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    question is it possible for you to do the same thing but make it for your steam folder and movies? I would love to see you take it to the next lvl where movies and music can be put on the inner part of the platter and games and apps on the outer part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCMAKER View Post
    question is it possible for you to do the same thing but make it for your steam folder and movies? I would love to see you take it to the next lvl where movies and music can be put on the inner part of the platter and games and apps on the outer part.
    Two points. First, no I can't. I didn't do anything in the first place other than create a batch file which invokes functionality that already existed in Windows. Second, even if I could, it would not really make any real measurable difference. Sure the transfer rate is a bit better at the outer edge, but you will never really notice the difference. It is imperceptible.

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    Well that blows. On my external there is a huge difference...even on my internals. I put all my games on my external because its far faster. Faster transfer rates would help loading times alot. I have noticed a difference from my internal to my external already. My external outer parts are 130MBps and inner parts are 70-80MBps. Thats a huge difference. My internal has a 50% difference almost too. Here are the benchmarks. Is there any program that can do that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DCMAKER View Post
    Well that blows. On my external there is a huge difference...even on my internals. I put all my games on my external because its far faster. Faster transfer rates would help loading times alot. I have noticed a difference from my internal to my external already. My external outer parts are 130MBps and inner parts are 70-80MBps. Thats a huge difference. My internal has a 50% difference almost too. Here are the benchmarks. Is there any program that can do that?


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    None that I know of. That's not to say there are none. I just don't know of any. To be honest with you I don't bother chasing down those sorts of performance tweaks, because in my day to day use they just aren't that significant. I don't really care if it takes an extra two seconds to load an app. I don't notice.

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    Default Re: Defragmenting boot files under Win7

    alright thx. I'll try to google this but i bet i am out of luck ^^. The only reason why i care is that if i can find a program to do it. It should be easy and not take very much effort to get a nice little boost in load times.


    EDIT: side note check this thread i made. In my process of testing my external and stuff. I found out that HDTune Pro is not accurate. For some reason it gives false results as i show here.

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