New MacBook pro for gaming?

[Guyguerra]

I bought the g75 a few weeks ago for gaming and am happy with it. My problem is that everything else I have in my business and personal hardware is Mac. Now apple came out with the retina MacBook pro and I am wondering if it will play my games well enough. If it would, it would also get me all the other stuff that I normally use that I can't on the windows machine. My question is will the 2.6 ghz with 16 gigs of ram and the 520 gig SS hd run games at a similar frame rate and performance as the g75? I would really appreciate the advice from some of you guys that know so much about hardware. . I did order the apple laptop which won't be here for a few weeks, and I'll have to send the asus back before it arrives. Will the MacBook pro with 2.6 ghz processor and 16 gigs of ram and SS drive perform about the same as the g75. I plan to use boot amp and run windows 7 for my gaming. It's not a Mac verses windows question, or a money/value question, just a performance question. Typical games for me ate batman & skyrim played thru steam, diabo 3, and im looking forward to prototype 2 in july. Again, i would boot up in windows 7 to play these. I really appreciate your advice.
Thanks,
Guy

[Prasad]

First, let's get the facts straight here:
1. The GPU is ALWAYS the primary bottleneck in games, and is of top concern when gaming is your priority.
2. The higher resolution screen on the MBP will not help because:
2.1. You'd be gaming on Windows.
2.2. Windows does not scale very well with extremely high resolutions.
2.3. You'd have to lower the resolution for decent playability.
2.4. This would lead to pixeleration.
3. Apple cooling isn't good enough for any gamer, at all.
4. Overheating issues on Windows when constantly gaming.
5. The GPU offered on Apple is highly substandard to offerings from other brands/vendors, and would substantially curb your gaming experience/performance, not to mention you having to noticeably lower the in-game resolution from your native resolution.
6. As for the other hardware components (that don't even remotely mean as much while gaming) like the CPU, SSD, RAM are also available through other brands and their systems, much cheaper, might I add.
7. I'm not sure what your G75 configuration is, but on the cooling/heat management end, I'm more than certain it would do better than any Apple system.

Suffice to say, if your budget is that high enough, consider filling up this form so we can give you better advise. Unless ofcourse, you're convinced MBP is what you want and is the way to go. In that case, given my deductions from your post, you need to first assess where your priority with the new purchase lies -- Is it your business or will it be gaming? Also, what would you mostly use the laptop for anyway, most of the time? Finally, can whatever you need to work on Mac really not work out for you on Windows?? I'd really doubt that.. In which case, you're without doubt better off without a Mac. MBP is just NOT and will never be a gaming laptop.

[pepper_john]

prasad, that is an impressive analysis

[Guyguerra]

I use this mostly for gaming, which is why I bought it. The things that wouldbe nice to haveback on the mac side for me is Pro Logic for building my sequences, networking to my other macs in the house, conection to my apple tv, and my ical, contacts etc, though I am using the cloud for that. I can live without these things, but thought maybe this new macbook would keep up on the gaming side and allow me to stay in my mac world when I want to. The money side sickens me, but my 17" macbook lasted me 7 years, so I assume this new mackbook would too. Still undecided,and hate being undecided. Again, its not mac verses windows, its just a question of will my games run on the lastest mackbook. I dont care about the retrina display on my windows games, as long as the resolution is comparable to my G75. The heat bothers me, as the G75 is very cool for a laptop, which I am very happy about. What is GPU? Assuming thats not CPU, I've got something to learn here.

[Prasad]

I use this mostly for gaming, which is why I bought it. The things that wouldbe nice to haveback on the mac side for me is Pro Logic for building my sequences, networking to my other macs in the house, conection to my apple tv, and my ical, contacts etc, though I am using the cloud for that. I can live without these things, but thought maybe this new macbook would keep up on the gaming side and allow me to stay in my mac world when I want to. The money side sickens me, but my 17" macbook lasted me 7 years, so I assume this new mackbook would too. Still undecided,and hate being undecided. Again, its not mac verses windows, its just a question of will my games run on the lastest mackbook. I dont care about the retrina display on my windows games, as long as the resolution is comparable to my G75. The heat bothers me, as the G75 is very cool for a laptop, which I am very happy about. What is GPU? Assuming thats not CPU, I've got something to learn here.

The Graphics Processing Unit, ie. the graphics card. And the MBP's GPU is insufficient for a gamer.

[Prasad]

I use this mostly for gaming, which is why I bought it. The things that wouldbe nice to haveback on the mac side for me is Pro Logic for building my sequences, networking to my other macs in the house, conection to my apple tv, and my ical, contacts etc, though I am using the cloud for that. I can live without these things, but thought maybe this new macbook would keep up on the gaming side and allow me to stay in my mac world when I want to. The money side sickens me, but my 17" macbook lasted me 7 years, so I assume this new mackbook would too. Still undecided,and hate being undecided. Again, its not mac verses windows, its just a question of will my games run on the lastest mackbook. I dont care about the retrina display on my windows games, as long as the resolution is comparable to my G75. The heat bothers me, as the G75 is very cool for a laptop, which I am very happy about. What is GPU? Assuming thats not CPU, I've got something to learn here.

The Graphics Processing Unit, ie. the graphics card. And the MBP's GPU is insufficient for a gamer.

[s2odin]

What is GPU? Assuming thats not CPU, I've got something to learn here.

The graphics card; the thing that allows you to game.

[pepper_john]

" Right now, seemingly every third-party app on the Mac looks terrible.

The primary Apple apps -- Safari, Mail, the address book, etc. -- have all been tweaked to make use of all these wonderful pixels. Sadly, little else has. While we got assurances that third-party apps like Adobe Photoshop and AutoCAD are in the process of being refined, right now, seemingly every third-party app on the Mac looks terrible."

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/13/a...isplay-review/

[gamerish]

The Graphics Processing Unit, ie. the graphics card. And the MBP's GPU is insufficient for a gamer.

Just because it's not a 7970m doesn't mean it's insufficient for gaming. He may not be able to max out BF3 and Witcher 2 but he can comfortably play on high settings on the vast majority of modern games (according to notebookcheck), especially if he overclocks it to 660m speeds which it is perfectly capable of doing quite easily (though I don't know how that goes in OSX).

[Prasad]

Just because it's not a 7970m doesn't mean it's insufficient for gaming. He may not be able to max out BF3 and Witcher 2 but he can comfortably play on high settings on the vast majority of modern games (according to notebookcheck), especially if he overclocks it to 660m speeds which it is perfectly capable of doing quite easily (though I don't know how that goes in OSX).

Where in any of my earlier posts in this thread did I even mention the 7970M ?? I made everything clear in my first post here.