Dell Alienware m17x r4 vs Hp d6-7014nr

[hifiadi]

I would like to know that which is is better high performance laptop. I really don't want to buy HP because my current HP is just Problems, are there any such problems with this laptop
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/hom...nt-Notebook-PC

My second option is m17x r4 with these specs

Processor:
3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3610QM (6MB Cache, up to 3.3GHz w/ Turbo Boost 2.0)
Memory:
8GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1600MHz (2DIMMS)

Operating System:
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit

Hard Drive:
750GB 7,200 RPM + 32GB mSATA Caching SSD


Video Card:
2GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon™ HD 7970M

Display Panels:
17.3-inch WideFHD 1920 x 1080 60Hz WLED


Wireless Networking:
Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 2230 With Bluetooth 4.0

I am trying to convince someone that alienware is better but I am not getting suitable arguments other graphic card is faster. Also HP is lot cheaper, Please suggest the better laptop.

[s2odin]

For gaming the M17x is vastly superior. It also has a better build quality and better cooling.

[hifiadi]

For gaming the M17x is vastly superior. It also has a better build quality and better cooling.

I will mainly play only 4 games
GTA 4
Mafia 2
Flight simlator X
X Plane

Otherewise many designing and programming softwares

Autodesk 123D
Sketch up
Maya
etc

Please expand on vastly superior thing. In which ways superior and also is HP's cooling so bad. Because my current HP's laptops cooling is so bad it can't gta san with go7150M (its hp dv2745se)

[Pepiexe]

I will mainly play only 4 games
GTA 4
Mafia 2
Flight simlator X
X Plane

Otherewise many designing and programming softwares

Autodesk 123D
Sketch up
Maya
etc

Please expand on vastly superior thing. In which ways superior and also is HP's cooling so bad. Because my current HP's laptops cooling is so bad it can't gta san with go7150M (its hp dv2745se)

Your games are not that demanding, you may be able to work with the HP. However, this is why I would pick the Alienware instead:

First, the AMD 7970 will literally crush the GeForce GT 650M. I play graphics demanding games (Crysis 1-2, Metro 2033, etc) and so I tend to pick the laptops with better video cards.

Second, heat issues. I am not sure about this new model, but I have an older HP and gets hot. The only laptop that I have seen getting hotter than old HP models is the Asus G51. Again, I am not sure about this new model.

Third, reliability. I have never seen an Alienware getting useless over time. When I got my HP (DV9000) in college many other guys got one too (they were going sheep at that time) and within two years all of them just died because of the heat and video card issues. My HP is the only survivor from that group, but I am not the average user either.

Forth, the extras. HDD writing speed, Raid 0 SSDs, build quality, etc.

If you don't see yourself taking advantage of these features then I would get the HP. There is no reason to spend 2k on a machine you won't be fully using. Also, a good cooling fan (I have a Zalman, forgot the model name) can help reduce the heating issues of the HP.

Hope this helps, sorry for the lengthy reply. Good luck.

[xXxPykexXx]

I will mainly play only 4 games
GTA 4
Mafia 2
Flight simlator X
X Plane

Otherewise many designing and programming softwares

Autodesk 123D
Sketch up
Maya
etc

Please expand on vastly superior thing. In which ways superior and also is HP's cooling so bad. Because my current HP's laptops cooling is so bad it can't gta san with go7150M (its hp dv2745se)

I've owned 2 HPs and 2 Dells. I'd say the higher end Dells > the higher end HPs, in terms of build quality/materials/etc. I don't necessarily know you need a 7970m for your purposes. It sounds like you really want an awesome processor/ram/ssd. One advantage to the M17X R4 is the ease of expanding RAM (4 slots available, 2 of which are easily accessible under the back cover) and 2 hard drive bays (allowing you to have two SSDs).

That said, the R4 is heavier, will haves less battery life, and is more expensive (by a fair margin)

[hifiadi]

@Pepiexe No problem I love lengthy replies.. !! @xXxPykexXx You got me right thats all I need Proccesor, Ram , Graphics,.. So I should blindly take alienware Right? Also I plan on using it atleeast for 4-6 years Maybe I will upgrade it but am damm sure will not buy a new one.. So Please suggest me which one is better also if you have anyother laptop which suits me then please tell me about it. How's is the new macbook pro 17 inch compared to them?


P.S I kind of handle laptops roughly so build quality and sturdiness is needed.

[Chazy90]

7970M vs 650M? Just double the power.
Look at the benchmarks:
AMD Radeon HD 7970M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

I'm not even talking about the MUCH better build quality and cooling system of the M17x.

[hifiadi]

Thanks for the reply !! so HP is totally out. But how about mac ??

[Zetachaox]

I think you're comparing apples to oranges here, if you're considering a powerful desktop replacement like an alienware m17x then the other options would be MSI GT70, Asus G75, Sager NP9170/Clevo P170EM or Samsung Series 7 Gamer

[Solypsos]

Thanks for the reply !! so HP is totally out. But how about mac ??

If you do that, it will quickly surpass the AW in cost. However, what you pay for a comparable Macbook Pro will easily be worth it if you intend to stay in the Mac ecosystem for the long haul. You can easily resell a 3-4 year old MBP for as much as 75% what you got it, if it's still in great condition. Then forward that money to a new unit in the future.

Alienware also has great resale value, but I'm not aware of anybody who's kept their machine nearly as long and got as great a return as a mac.

The problem is... you can easily have those savings just by not buying the mac (the most comparable MBP starts around $2400!!!) to start with. To add to that, Apple will be unveiling their newest line at WWDC in a few weeks, which means you'll either have to wait or get an outdated system.

TL;DR: I strongly advise against this if gaming is your priority.