Asus G75 vs Sager NP9170

[loneblade]

Kammander: It looks to be the right size and everything, but I would confirm with a re-seller just in case.

DinoKhai: You're right, the 670m is not a slow chip at all and the Asus G74 is definitely a cool sexy beast. However, I am not sure how the G75 redesign will change things. I am still in favor of the Asus for the stealth plane design and cooling system, but you need to keep in mind that Sager is also known for an impressive cooling system (although different with air intake). Asus will definitely win hands down in terms of fan noise, but also obviously at the expense of quality and performance.

I think both option is a great choice depending on your environment of use and needs. If you absolutely need to play games in silence (college dorms and libraries for example), go with the Asus G74 with the 660m (it will only perform slightly worse than the 670m). If you want to go with the high grade parts and are willing to test out what most say to be the best on the market for laptop gaming, then go with Sager NP9170/Clevo P170em. In another words, if you want to play it safe and have an eye candy laptop then go with Asus, if you want to push the boundaries of laptop gaming with some risks then go with Sager. That's how I see it anyways. If anyone think this interpretation is wrong please say so, since my intention is not to misguide anyone.

[DinoKhai]

They redesign the cooling system and now with the Asus g75 you can even take out the fans and clean them for yourself which is a very good thing. Yeah i mean the 675 is faster but come on admit it really how faster? its not going to be that dramatic, you can probably even overclock your stock 670 to probably match the stock 675.
And also the design Asus has one of the best looking design and also with the g75 its thinner, sturdier and lighter and also have a new keyboard design. Sager looks in my opinion downward ugly and i know a lot of people are gonna argue me telling looks don't matter but when i go to a lan party or yank my laptop out in a public its going to get some attention its unique. While sager looks very uhh mainstream nothing special about the looks.

[loneblade]

Before I start, here's a pretty cool link with a quick benchmark comparisons of many GPUs: PassMark Software - Video Card Benchmarks - Video Card Look Up

DinoKhai, I agree with your points on the Asus, and Sager being ugly in comparison. Looks definitely matter too. However, I disagree that there isn't a dramatic increase in performance from 670m to 675m. Even if you compared an overclocked 670m to an non-overclocked 675m, it will still come up short while producing more heat. I don't think there is an need or reason to overclock with an Asus G75 anyways, since my reason for wanting it is to always run a cool and quiet sexy machine, and screw running games on Ultra with great FPS as long as they are playable at a decent setting. Many gaming laptops have allowed you to take out and clean the fans before, so I don't know why that's such an impressive design change. I do suppose the screw-free compartment is kind of cool. Are you considering the 660m at all? There has been some new discussions in the G75 forum, and the 660m models are looking like a better choice in some aspects.

Truthfully, I don't even know what's the purpose of debating which is a better buy? The two laptops are made for different crowds, and both are great choices. If you think the Asus G75 is better for you, then get it. As for the Sager not getting any attention with it's looks, I will make sure it gets some when I talk about the parts I'm putting into it. Haha

Besides, 675m isn't even a concern for me anymore. I am going to be patient and get the even better 28nm GPUs (HD 7970m and GTX 680m). It will be nice to have a more powerful card that runs on less heat and power.

[Kammander]

I decided on ASUS G75 instead of Sager. Decided to play it safe.

As for gaming and little photshop... Whats better? stock, matte, or glossy?

I have a ASUS G74, and their stock screen is decent. Is there really a HUGE difference between stock and matte/glossy?

Theres no discussion page on this... sorry for posting here

[loneblade]

My previous gaming laptop had a stock built Glossy screen, and it was extremely annoying to unbearable to do anything whenever there was a direct light source hitting my screen. I would never let my girlfriend open the window curtains because of it. My work laptop is a Matte screen, and it makes it easier for me to do things on the go thanks to the anti-glare. Glossy has sharper colors though, while Matte is suppose to be more accurate and less stressful on the eyes.

In the end, it is all based on your preference. More people seems to lean towards Matte for photo editing, but many uses Glossy as well. The only concern is if the stock Glossy screen on powernotebooks is good enough for you (Is the stock screen on your G74 a Glossy or Matte?).

[Kammander]

My previous gaming laptop had a stock built Glossy screen, and it was extremely annoying to unbearable to do anything whenever there was a direct light source hitting my screen. I would never let my girlfriend open the window curtains because of it. My work laptop is a Matte screen, and it makes it easier for me to do things on the go thanks to the anti-glare. Glossy has sharper colors though, while Matte is suppose to be more accurate and less stressful on the eyes.

In the end, it is all based on your preference. More people seems to lean towards Matte for photo editing, but many uses Glossy as well. The only concern is if the stock Glossy screen on powernotebooks is good enough for you (Is the stock screen on your G74 a Glossy or Matte?).

To be honest, i dont know what my asus g74 screen is... ASUS Republic of Gamers G74SX-AH71 17.3-Inch Gaming Laptop (Black):Amazon:Computers & Accessories that is the medel i have. But g75 from powernotebooks has a option to upgrade to matte for 100$ and glossy for 150$.are they trying to rip people off? Or is there a huuuge diffedence? I guess i want matte...

[loneblade]

Looking at the reviews for your model you probably have the Glossy screen. You can test it by flashing a light into the screen, especially while it is off, and see if you will see a clear reflection through it. If so, then it's a Glossy. If it has been working fine for you, and you're not getting sore eyes or headache after extended use, going with the default screen for G75 should be just as good.

Given the prices of the parts for G73 screens I found through Google, the prices at powernotebooks looks legit. The stock screen you get in a G73 is only worth about 65 dollars, while the G73 matte screen is still worth about 180 to 190 dollars. I heard something about how Glossy is used on a lot of low quality screen to hide how bad they really are, so that might be the case here.

Also, look at this link Visual Differences Between The Different Screen Options. Photos?. It's from an old post comparing Glossy Gamut 60% (v.0) against Matte Gamut 60% (v.1) and Matte Gamut 95% (v.4) when under no major light sources. For your interest, you will want to compare the v.0 and v.1. Keep in mind though that v.1 is only the stock Matte screen, while the one you upgrade to will have a better color range (it's 72% Gamut).

[Karamazovmm]

It doesnt make any sense for you to go from a g74 to a g75....

for the hopefuls of the upcoming game changer gpus, here is something that you guys might like

P150EM DIY II | WSI Bytes & Gadgets - Portáteis à sua medida - Loja Online - Asus, Clevo, Sony, Toshiba, Dell, HP, Samsung, Compal, Apple

This is a portuguese reseller, he is already having those 7970m for pre order, the specs on the 7970m according to that reseller are 1536 shaders, 800 core clocks.

[praetorianx]

I like the way Sager looks, but I don't like that keyboard... It looks so 1999. If it only had same style as G73/74/75, I would go for it. Damn Clevo engineering team..
Edit: has anyone noticed the size of the power brick?!?!? oMG

[ciddireblackire]

It doesnt make any sense for you to go from a g74 to a g75....

for the hopefuls of the upcoming game changer gpus, here is something that you guys might like

P150EM DIY II | WSI Bytes & Gadgets - Portáteis à sua medida - Loja Online - Asus, Clevo, Sony, Toshiba, Dell, HP, Samsung, Compal, Apple

This is a portuguese reseller, he is already having those 7970m for pre order, the specs on the 7970m according to that reseller are 1536 shaders, 800 core clocks.

The G74SX has a 560m. If they move up to the G75VW-DS72 (the SKU with GTX 670m) Even if the 670m is the re-branded 570m its still going to be a ~20% raw GPU performance increase. Add in the fact it's Ivy Bridge CPU and you get better battery life and a small increase to CPU performance.