Asus G75 vs Sager NP9170

[Hassl3]

Dang.. I'm in the same shoes as u guys.. right now I'm pulling towards the np9170 and I think that's only because of the 675m.. I usually play on my bed though.. how hotter does the sager get compared to the asus?

[loneblade]

Dang.. I'm in the same shoes as u guys.. right now I'm pulling towards the np9170 and I think that's only because of the 675m.. I usually play on my bed though.. how hotter does the sager get compared to the asus?

With the Sager you will not want to play on your bed without some sort of a board or solid surface beneath it (binders work just fine). Sager systems are build to intake air from the bottom for cooling, while Asus G series looks like it might be from the keyboard. This is part of my consideration as well, but it really isn't much trouble after I thought about it. You will probably want to do the same even with an Asus G75 when playing on the bed to be honest.

I have decided to go with the Sager, in fact I just placed my order to make sure I get one of those Ivy Bridges sooner just in case things get back ordered.

These are my decision points. If I have issues with the with fan noise or overheating, I will return it for an Asus G75. It does however make sense to first try out the better known manufacturer for high grade laptops and builds (lets not forget a better price to performance ratio). In the event where I need to reapply thermal paste or make upgrades to the cpu/gpu, I can do so with a Sager much easier (In fact, getting to the cpu in the Asus will void warranty, and the gpu can't be upgraded. Essentially, you're required to buy a brand new machine if you ever want to keep up with newer games or gpu dies.). While the Sager may run hotter, it also partially has to do with the Sager running at a heavier load (please correct me if I'm wrong on this). Under normal gaming conditions overheating is probably not going to be an issue, while Asus G75 will just limit the capabilities period. There is still several days till the 29th, meaning I can also cancel and change my order if better news about Asus G75 comes out.

Here are a few of my concerns with the Asus G75 model as well. It is much thinner than the G74, meaning less space for insulation. They also moved the fans back to the corner (G73 style). The G73 had some overheating issues from what I've read. Maybe they have improved the heat sink placement, but we won't know till someone opens one up.

Thus, I decided to order the Sager NP9170 (with the addition of a matte screen as recommended by Kammander), and will continue to stay up to date with Asus G75 news.

[ThwartAbyss54]

Whys everyone saying the 560M is unable to play BF3? Ive seen videos on youtube where BF3 ran beautifully, everything maxed at 1920X1080 on the G74. Im not trying to make anyone mad or anything im just confused :P. I was saving for the G74 but i saw the preorder for the G75 and now im waiting for it MUAHAHAHAHA

[Kammander]

Thwart, I own a ASUS G74 (560M). I cant play Battlefield 3 in high or Ultra. I was stuck on playing on med. setting. At high you'll lag and your performance goes down. As for Ultra..... good luck...

As loneblade suggest, I'm going for the try Sager (675M)for 30 days and if I dont like the noise/heating... and I just return it and change it to ASUS G75 (with 670M).

Seems like we're all on the same boat. Maybe if we all order and once and get additional discount. LOL

[Geekz]

even with a 6990m i don't bother on full high / ultra on bf3, I'd rather have low settings with consistent 60fps

[Karamazovmm]

Sincerely the cooling of the Sagers/Clevo/whatever name the resellers put it, IS superior to the cooling the asus G series, why?

Because it needs to be. The G series only supports 75w tdp gpus, the clevos 100w. The 675m is a 100w gpu.

But while all this is good and all, we havent been delivered the new 2012 gpus from both companies. So I would simply raise the question of can you wait? The msi is planning to debut the 7970m in their models soon, there is a portuguese clevo reseller already selling the 7970m as a pre order item.

The 7970m is a 28nm gpu, which we think is based on the desktop 7850, we dont have confirmation on the TDP nor the performance. Some said that it should be around 65w, others are thinking around 75-85w like the 6970m was, while there is a group that hopes that AMD will just cram the 7850 in a notebook thus raises the 100w camp.

If it is a 7850, we are going to see some really decent performance increase compared to last years cards. And that is also the most logical way, since we are throughly seeing the 7700 series in the 7800m and possibly the 7700m as well, since those are really cool chips and all that.

Basically my advice is this, we dont know about the cooling of the new G series (and yes before the G73 the cooling on the asus G series was nothing to write about), and there is a good chassis reduction in that machine, I hope for the cool and less noisy camp, however one thing I know for sure is that IF you buy the 670m model you are going to have last year performance and last year tech. At least this year you can stop using the 460m since the 560m is basically that.

I havent talked much about the 680m since it has a release date of june.

Also have you thought about MSI and AW? There are only 3 companies now that do high end gaming, Clevo, AW and MSI. The new m17x R4 is going to pack the 7970m from the start, and the MSI GT whatever is going to pack one real soon.

[Vergeofinsanity81]

Is it official that the Asus G75 will have the gtx 670? I've heard only the gtx 660m.

[loneblade]

Vergeofinsanity81: It is looking like both will be available for the G75. Amazon has the 660m model listed for pre-orders. While re-sellers like powernotebooks had the 670m listed for pre-order before taking that page down.

Mr. MM: I think the wait for GTX 680m and HD 7970m will probably kill me, haha. Currently I don't have anything I can play PC games with. I am limited to Starcraft 1 on my girlfriend's laptop. It's looking like the GTX 680m will be out at the end of summer or before presidential election, while I can barely dig up any information on the HD 7970m beyond what you told me (availability on the next Alienware and MSI).

Alienware is definitely more expensive than what I would be willing to spend. MSI seems to cost a bit more than Sager/Clevo too. Despite the much better audio, I can't really convince myself the need to spend that extra cash. Plus for some reason I don't really like the MSI design. =/

[Kammander]

Would this Newegg.com - Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) fit into ASUS G75 or Sager's HD compartment?

[DinoKhai]

Yeah.. it comes down to 670M (ASUS) vs 675M option (Sager). ASUS is a lot cooler and quieter.

When buying a gaming laptop the cooling system is the most important thing to consider performance is also important but laptop is a laptop you want to benchmark and push ur system buy a desktop, the asus g75 with the 670 is not a slow machine at all the cooling system is really good for a laptop and with a bad cooling system will eventually go slow and overheat from demanding games. And asus g75 have a really good design