need help choosing my next laptop

[jimy444]

1) What is your budget?
1000-1200 usd

2) What size notebook would you prefer?
e. Desktop Replacement; 17"+ screen

3) Where will you buying this notebook? You can select the flag of your France - UK - germany

4) Are there any brands that you prefer or any you really don't like?
a. Like: msi - toshiba - asus - medion - clevo
b. Dislike: hp - sony - samsung - acer

5) Would you consider laptops that are refurbished/redistributed?
no

6) What are the primary tasks will you be performing with this notebook?
graphic works + gaming + internet

7) Will you be taking the notebook with you to different places, leaving it on your desk or both?
Both

8) Will you be playing games on your notebook? If so, please state which games or types of games?
mainly fps - and some strategy games

9) How many hours of battery life do you need?
1 hour

10) Would you prefer to see the notebooks you're considering before purchasing it or buying a notebook on-line without seeing it is OK?
buying a notebook on-line without seeing it is OK

11) What OS do you prefer? Windows (XP or Vista or Windows 7), Mac OS, Linux, etc.
windows 7 64

Screen Specifics

12) From the choices below, what screen resolution(s) would you prefer? Keep in mind screen size in conjunction with resolution will play a large role in overall viewing comfort level. Everyone is different. Some like really small text, while others like their text big and easy to read. Click here for Screen resolution information.
Actual resolutions: 1680x1050, 1920x1200 and 1920x1080

13) Do you want a Glossy/reflective screen or a Matte/non-glossy screen?
i prefer matt but glossy can do

Build Quality and Design

14) Are the notebook's looks and stylishness important to you?
no at all, what is inside it is more importent

15) When are you buying this laptop?
withing the next 30-60 days

16) How long do you want this laptop to last?
3-4 years

Notebook Components

17) How much hard drive space do you need; 80GB to 640GB? Do you want a SSD drive?
ssd would be a +, having the option of plugging two drives is also a +

18) Do you need an optical drive? If yes, a CDRW/DVD-ROM, DVD Burner or Blu-Ray drive?
dvd burner


i currently have the msi gt725 that i have been using for the past 4 years... but is now becomming too slow for my work

i was looking for a new gaming laptop featuring a gtx 560, i currently live in france and the cheapest laptop featuring the gtx 560 woul have been a quosmio et around 1100 usd

but today i foud what seems to me to be a very good deal :

Review Medion Akoya X7811 Gaming-Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

the below french version comes with a 120 gb ssd drive! at the price of 799 euros
MEDION AKOYA X7811 MD97589 - Achat / Vente ORDINATEUR PORTABLE MEDION AKOYA X7811 MD97589 - Cdiscount.com

would you advise me to go with this laptop knowing that my budget is limited
is the 5870 still acceptable to play the games coming in the next 2 years (maybe not on ultra resolution but at least at playable fps?)

any help please for making my decision? any other choices i might consider?
thanks

[idiot101]

New hardware from Intel(IB) and Nvidia(Kepler) will be out by the time you are going to buy your laptop. Prices of the older SB machines will drop and you could get an excellent deal. I would rather recommend that you invest in a laptop with the new GT650m which should offer you performance close to that of the 560M but much better than the 555M. These cards should be available in a month's time. The 5870 is two generations old and runs very hot. But it is a good card for gaming.
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870
You should be able to get a custom Clevo machine with the 1080p screen and the GT650M with Ivybridge processors by the end of April/middle of May. These should have good cooling.
The laptop you have linked to has a poor resolution for a 17".
My 2 cents.

[nissangtr786]

Runs very hot? The amd mobility 5000 series was reknowned for being cool and having lower power consumption while nvidia fermi had high power consumption and ran hot,

Review Asus G73JH (ATI HD 5870) Gaming Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

I would wait get something like a 3612qm i7 ivy bridge gt 650m or hd 7750m and you will be able to play games easily on high at 1080p. Maybe not all the eye candy on but easily 30fps+ on high on most games, not ultra spec but good enough to put some aa on.

[jimy444]

thanks you both guys for your replies but they did not really help as they are contradictory

thanks for reminding me that new hardware is announced within the next month or two but i feel in Europe the prices will not drop that fast, it might take 4-5 months and i might end up obliged to buy a laptop just because it price dropped and not because i like it or it perfectly fits my needs

any other ideas?
what about the link i provided?
the unit price is 799 euros and its main con would be the resolution of its screen (i might consider this as an advantage to be able to enjoy longer the 5870 at high rez settings as i do not have an hd screen. i mean by here that smaller screen resolutions will result if better fps)

the closest computer price in europe is 1100 euros for a toshiba quosmio (same specs / gtx 560 / slightly better screen but still not HD / no ssd)
the second choice would be the asus gaming series starting at 1200 euros and up (same specs/ gtx 560 / HD screen)

considering that the prices in europe are 15 to 25 % more expansive than the US

i already have a quite good desktop (i7 / ssd / 6tb drives / 12gb ram/ radeon 6970 2gb / ACD Srceen running at 2560 x 1440) i play my 150 steam games very fluently and i am not an overclock-er looking only for frame rates, or do not accept to play unless i am playing with 16x anti aliasing on.
just looking for decent machine that will play the next 2-3 years games decently. and if ever i stuck with one i can play it on my desktop.

thanks
jimmy

[idiot101]

Clevo Resellers in the European Union -V1

You might try finding something within your budget from Clevo. You might game at low settings, but for everything else you do on the laptop, you will struggle with the quality of the screen. Lower resolution screens are bad.

Please wait for Kepler parts. IB for gamers is not much of an improvement over SB.

Right now, I can configure a GT555m machine like this. I would expect the GT650m to slot into this price range.
mySN.de | XMG XIRIOS XESIA | buy Schenker Notebooks

And a lot of the new machines have not yet been announced by all the OEMs. Please wait for the complete roster before you decide. There are a lot of low prices machines with the GT650M that are expected.

[jimy444]

thanks 101 for your comment
so you think that Intel(IB) and Nvidia(Kepler) will be that much of an improvement? like 25% better performence?
my desktop running the first generation of i7 barely uses 40-50 percent of his resources when photoshop/illustrator/printing on dvd/ berning on dvd / and playing left for dead at the same time
the only time i saw all my cpus at max was when video editing...
do think that we need this extra power?

thanks

[idiot101]

For gaming - No. A core i5 would suffice with a GT650m/Gt555m. For the graphics settings you will run the games at, you will not stress the processor much(unless you want to play a lot of RTS games like SC2). You don't need more cpu than that with the settings that the card will allow you play at.
If you are going to do video editing on the laptop, then a quadcore i7 would be the better option.

[jimy444]

checking the clevo links now thanks
i might wait a little, you are right why rush as the more i will wait the more i will have for my money

thanks again

[jimy444]

xmg looks to have very nice prices especially considering that they are offering the 670 and the 675 setups
do yuo know if they ship to france?
so you know other manufacturers offering these vga's setups?

[idiot101]

Schenker ships to France. You can contact them for more details. The 670m and the 675m are rebadged fermi cards. The card you should be looking for is the GTX660m which will be based on Kepler. These guys have a good reputation. You will need to read up on the rest of the resellers. I am only aware of Schenker as they sponsor Esports in Germany.