MBP Alternative

[azndrake]

Last post of the day which supports cnet from Tomshardware of what i have been saying:

PC vs. Mac in Security: Experts Share Opinions

Tomshardware is a very reputable website stuff they post are usually never biased at all, they really go through a filter before anything lands on their website. if you must discredit this website, provide me with your own that will debunk this one, with a recent date thanks.

There is no problem, just focus on what the OP wants not what you want in a computer, and he wants:

Can anyone recommend a MBP alternative.

I'm on the verge of buying another mac. Although I would want the 15 inch upgraded screen with SSD, quadcore. It gets a little pricey.

I was wondering if there are any alternative. My requirements being

- Thin
- Fairly light
- Macbook pro style keybaord
- Fairly good looking
- Sandy Bridge Quad core
- SSD
- Pretty good battery

My problem is at the moment the only laptop on the market that i can find that covers these points is the mbp. I don't want another chunk, plastic, crappy looking windows laptop. The closest I have found is the Samsung Series 9 but it is only 13.3 inches.

I understand you are insecure about security but please respect the integrity of what this topic is about
Got it? hes not a general consumer he is a person with specific needs. We post replies to try to help satisfy his specific needs, not ramble on about security issues that are "nonexistent" (in the context that you claim that PC are much safer than Macs) that has absolutely nothing to do with his needs.

As you already agreed that what the article and what i stated are valid arguments on the security of the Mac system.

Sidenote: OP never responded, thread should be locked good day.

[Sxooter]

If you want a secure OS you run OpenBSD. If you want a pretty secure OS you run some flavor of Unix-like OS like FreeBSD, RedHat, Solaris etc where security updates come out daily / as needed not monthly.

[Crimsoned]

azndrake, please take a moment to relax. Then see what you have done. You have constantly brought up the need to address the original poster's needs yet a good chunk of your post related to others.

Actually what you linked is terrible. All tomshardware did was post a quick summary of what is being addressed in the article with a link. This is done to generate hits on Tomshardware. (if you are unaware more hits on the page= tomshardware can charge more for advertisements). I would HARDLY call Tomshardware unbiased, at least as of late. They allow little discussion about Apple vs PC, they sell their own boards to manufacturers (manufacturers then delete unwanted posts, will negate other user's experiences, and more). Lastly the community in Tomshardware was dramatically been reduced to quoters. Many of the older and well respected Tomshardware users have retired from there. I myself left there.

This practice of referring other's articles is done on just about all blog/tech review sites. They quote other's articles, and link them in their own mini post. This helps generate hits to said blog/review sites.

Please take a moment to relax and see what the articles real intention was, not what it seems to be.
I do appreciate your determination however, we really do need more people like you to actually take time to try and help someone, not just sit back and say oh well. Although you are doing it wrong, I am specially interested in helping you how to find good sources (I can give you pointers, not links directly to sources).

[Kuroi-Tsubasa]

Well to you maybe it is important, since you discredit experts, maybe the only type of people with credentials are people posting on the forums that's the only assumption i can draw out.

Btw i will mention it once more OPnever responded to this entire topic, this topic is DEAD DEAD DEAD which is why this will be last post on this topic.

Dude, holy crap, chill the hell out. It's just a COMPUTER, a tool someone uses to complete work. Does it really matter where it comes from (reliability issues aside)? Try to have an objective argument if you want to keep this up; please don't reduce yourself to an emotional fanboy. These are just random NBR members trying to help some random OP decide on a purchase. Here, let me show you:

- Thin
- Fairly light
- Macbook pro style keybaord
- Fairly good looking
- Sandy Bridge Quad core
- SSD
- Pretty good battery

-Envy, Latitude, Elitebook, Asus, and the Acer Timelinex meet the thin requirements
-Clicklet-style keyboards are fairly common now
-Looks are subjective, as I've stated before
-Latitude, Elitebook, Asus, Thinkpad W, and I could add Sager and Alienware too
-SSD options are in plenty of laptops. I've already told the OP that it'd be cheaper to buy one himself.
-Lots of laptops have around +4 hours of battery life. As mentioned before, some of the business laptops get a day and a half.

Then you come along and say something about your girlfriend liking it (and while it's nice mentioning your girlfriend, she's not an expert), then your girlfriend's friend's husband who's an engineer at a hospital (read, not an expert) (also, pretty far off second-handed opinion; I could easily say something about my mom's coworker's friend who loves BSD, but it still means nothing), and then some chart on the opinions of 1,000 Joe Smiths (again, not experts by far). Then you try Tom's Hardware (which Crimsoned already did a good job describing).

Meanwhile, people like Crimsoned are objectively criticizing the MBP , and even fellow OSX-lover (from what I can tell) even disagrees with you on a lot of points.

I'm sorry, but what are you? 12? You build up so much emotion in a computing product that it's starting to get scary. Products are products, nothing more; use whatever fits you best. If you love OSX so much, all the power to you. Try thinking objectively for a second, using me as an example. I bought my Toshiba because it was on sale ($430, I don't see the point of spending more on a basic internet access point) and so far it has done everything I want it to do and more (dropped my laptop bag twice on concrete floors from my height and it still works without damage, though I think I'm just lucky lol). For the work I do (vBulletin.net, robotics, cisco packet tracer, etc), Windows is my only logical option (and no, I'm not going to spend $1000+ on a Mac just to put Windows on it; why bother with that?). On the flip side, when I was looking for a replacement for my Sansa View, I wanted a great, non-resistive touch screen as well as WiFi abilities, so the iPod Touch was the only option for me; again, it does all that I want (without rooting) and I like it well.

Just relax, before your blood pressure explodes. It's only a single thread on some community-driven laptop site; it's not like you have to defend your life or anything. If you want to continue to get emotional and cite faulty references to defend your purchase decision, then I simply cannot take you seriously anymore. Go outside and lay out in the grass, its a very relaxing past time you should try out . But in all seriousness, if it's this easy for you to get so worked up about a piece of equipment, then you need to get a life.

[azndrake]

Yes, yes I have. It says that PCs are 17% insecure, while Macs are 29%. What's your point? (It's still a crap article; I'm just pointing out what the provided chart says).

Don't want to offend you, but coming from someone that doesn't even know the difference between unsure and insecure sprout nonsense is rather amusing.

[Sxooter]

Nice deflection. hahaha

[Kuroi-Tsubasa]

Yeah, really. You missed the whole point of my post and now you're looking to move the attention you're attracting by making a remark about a crappy post about a crappy article (I put about as much effort in posting that quote as the "experts" put in that chart).

You're the kind of person that makes the rest of the Apple device owners look stupid in the eyes of the tech community...

Also, nice strawman .

[Dreamliner330]

This thread has more drama than a high school relationship...

[Kuroi-Tsubasa]

This thread has more drama than a high school relationship...

haha sure does look like it...it's entertaining though; i like debating as a past time.

[Sxooter]

Do they teach logical fallacies in school anymore? Sure doesn't seem like it.