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    Default Re: What would you take? ATI 5650 GDDR or 5730 DDR

    I really don't think there's that much difference in performance between DDR3 and GDDR3. They both offer the same level of bandwidth, and although there may be some differences in latencies and behaviour, I doubt it would really matter much.

    The MSI laptops you're linking are definitely good choices. I have an MSI GX640 myself and I'm very satisfied with it, although the cooling could be better.

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    Default Re: What would you take? ATI 5650 GDDR or 5730 DDR

    Quote Originally Posted by lackofcheese View Post
    I really don't think there's that much difference in performance between DDR3 and GDDR3. They both offer the same level of bandwidth, and although there may be some differences in latencies and behaviour, I doubt it would really matter much.

    The MSI laptops you're linking are definitely good choices. I have an MSI GX640 myself and I'm very satisfied with it, although the cooling could be better.
    Have you tried the Firewire on it, is it picky?
    Whats the performance of your 5850 on it? Is it way better than lets say the 4670(because there are benchies we can actually see out there)?
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    Default Re: What would you take? ATI 5650 GDDR or 5730 DDR

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghola View Post
    Have you tried the Firewire on it, is it picky?
    Whats the performance of your 5850 on it? Is it way better than lets say the 4670(because there are benchies we can actually see out there)?
    Uh, the 5850 GDDR5 is the second best single mobile GPU in the world (Q2 2010), beaten only by the 5870 which is a 5850 with a 15% overclock.

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    Default Re: What would you take? ATI 5650 GDDR or 5730 DDR

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghola View Post
    Have you tried the Firewire on it, is it picky?
    Whats the performance of your 5850 on it? Is it way better than lets say the 4670(because there are benchies we can actually see out there)?

    i want to see notebookreview do a benchmark of the msi 640 because it is the only machine with the 5850 gpu.

    the unofficial 3dmark 06 is over 11k, which makes it more powerful than anything else it is just about like a 285 gtx.

    It is in a 15 inch smaller laptop too.

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    Default Re: What would you take? ATI 5650 GDDR or 5730 DDR

    If you want more benchmarks on the 5850 make your way over to the MSI forums. In vantage we're getting around 7000 for gpu
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    Default Re: What would you take? ATI 5650 GDDR or 5730 DDR

    The GX640 is the only machine with the 5850 GPU with GDDR5. Acer has a few with GDDR3, and then it's not a spectacular card. I believe the 3dmark06 score you're quoting, stamar, is from either the GDDR3 version, or a mix of benches with both. A GTX280m can easily hit 12k, and the 5850/GDDR5 should be faster.

    And Ghola, I'm curious, what do you use Firewire for? I've got one, but I haven't found a use for it yet...
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    Default Re: What would you take? ATI 5650 GDDR or 5730 DDR

    I've run 3DMark06 on my stock GX640 twice and gotten around 11.5k both times:
    Score: 11558 3DMarks
    SM 2.0 Score: 4998
    SM 3.0 Score: 5666
    CPU Score: 2637
    For comparison, Notebookcheck's benchmarks seem to have a listing for the GX640 which might have had have been tested with an i5-520M, and they got 12027. These days, quite frankly, 3DMark06 is a terrible benchmark. The score reflects on the CPU far too much, and I believe it's also biased towards Nvidia cards.

    My stock Vantage result, for reference, was P7127 (CPU 7241 / GPU 7090). I'd say this is definitely a much more meaningful number, but ultimately you would want to test a variety of actual games rather than one benchmark.
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    Default Re: What would you take? ATI 5650 GDDR or 5730 DDR

    Quote Originally Posted by Histidine View Post
    The GX640 is the only machine with the 5850 GPU with GDDR5. Acer has a few with GDDR3, and then it's not a spectacular card. I believe the 3dmark06 score you're quoting, stamar, is from either the GDDR3 version, or a mix of benches with both. A GTX280m can easily hit 12k, and the 5850/GDDR5 should be faster.

    And Ghola, I'm curious, what do you use Firewire for? I've got one, but I haven't found a use for it yet...
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