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7th March 2008, 05:33 AM #1Notebook Guru
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Please help! Laptop decision causing grey hair
Hi there
I am new to this board, so hope I get all this right.
General Questions
1) What is your budget? Up to £600
2) What size notebook would you prefer? Would love a 17", but happy with 15.4"
3) Please select your country's flag as a post icon and tell us what country are you buying this in. I am currently in the UK but will be returning to South Africa soon and will need an international warranty and good service in SA.
4) Are there any brands that you prefer or any you really don't like? I like the Toshiba, not sure about Acer, would love a Sony, but they are expensive and have looked at the HP.
5) What tasks will you be performing with the notebook? I do mainly office work (Word, Excel, Databases and PowerPoint) and also some Photoshop work. I also play a strategy game called Caesar 3, which is a city building strategy game (old). I want to load my copy of XP on the machine, either replacing Vista or as a partition (I have some software that won't run on Vista).
6) Will you be taking the notebook with you to different places or leaving it on your desk? Mostly leaving it in one place
7) Will you be playing games on it; if so, which games? City building strategy game
8) How many hours of battery life do you need? The battery is the main reason for getting a laptop as South Africa is having power problems. If a machine doesn't have a great battery, can I buy a second one and switch them??
9) Do you mind buying online without seeing the notebook in person? Will buy online, but retailer does make a difference, e.g. Misco and Comet are good when it comes to customer service.
10) What OS do you prefer? Windows (XP or Vista), Mac OS, Linux, etc. I want to load XP, even if it comes loaded with Vista. I am looking at doing a partition.
Screen Specifics
11) Would you prefer standard or widescreen? Not sure about this
12) From the choices below, what screen resolutions would you prefer?
Standard
a. XGA -1024x768 - Large and easy to read text + graphics icons, but you fit less stuff on the screen.
b. SXGA - 1400x1050 - Compromise resolution between XGA and UXGA.
c. UXGA - 1600x1200 - Very small text and graphics icons, you can fit lots of stuff on the screen.
Widescreen
d. WXGA or WXGA+ - 1280x768/800 or 1440x900; Wider viewing version of XGA, good for movie viewing or spreadsheets.
e. WSXGA+ - 1680x1050; Wider viewing version of SXGA, good for movie viewing or spreadsheets.f. WUXGA - 1920x1200; Wider viewing version of UXGA, good for movie viewing or spreadsheets.
13) Do you want a glossy/reflective screen or a matte/non-glossy screen? I would prefer the less glossy screen, but on my budget is seems that I won't have all that much choice
Build Quality and Design
14) Are the notebook's looks and stylishness important to you? Not particularly, but I type a lot so the keyboard is important. I will get an external one though and a mouse, so must be able to turn off the track pad
15) When are you buying this laptop and how long do you want this laptop to last? I need to buy in the next week, and I want it to last as long as possible as I won't be able to afford a replacement for a very long time, if ever!
Notebook Components
16) How much hard drive space do you want; 40GB to 500GB? At least 160, or even better, a little more
17) Do you need an optical drive? If yes, a CDRW/DVD-ROM, DVD Burner or Blu-Ray drive? DVD+-RW, DL would be nice
I want 2GB Ram
Looking through the models available in my price range and looking up the benchmarks I have found the following:
Most have processors like the Intel T5250 or T5450 or the AMD TL 58, which are all benchmarked as ok, but not great. A few have the AMD TL 60, which is a bit better and one or two have the Intel T7200 which is even better.
On the bulk of the machines the graphics cards are either the ATI Radeon Xpress X1200 or the Intel GMA X3100. Both of these are benchmarked as not great and the review says that they cannot handle strategy games. A few of the models have the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400 or HD 2400XT and one or two have the HD 2600.
The problem is that the models that have the better processor have the lower rated graphics card and those that have both don’t have XP drivers – as far as I can see.
I am at my wits end. I don’t want to buy a computer that will end up taking a minute or more to refresh a screen when you have more than two things open, or that you have to keep rebooting to get it to work. I want to be able to play my one and only game (Caesar III) which is a strategy game and I want to be able to work in Photoshop and perhaps have one or two other things open at the same time, like a website perhaps.
I am looking at the Toshiba Sat A200-244. The drivers for XP seem to be on their site, but I can't figure out if ALL the drivers you need are there, or if you will always get stuck on one of them.
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10th March 2008, 01:27 PM #2Notebook Guru
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Re: Please help! Laptop decision causing grey hair
I am now looking at buying the Toshiba A200GE-26Q. I thought it would be worth spending a bit more and getting a really good spec.
Any thoughts on this?
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10th March 2008, 02:20 PM #3
Re: Please help! Laptop decision causing grey hair
If you want warranty service in SA then I suggest that you first identify those brands which have a good service network there. Then we are in a better position to make recommendations.
John
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11th March 2008, 07:55 AM #4Notebook Guru
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Re: Please help! Laptop decision causing grey hair
Thanks John, I have done this and Toshiba seems to be the best of the bunch on that score. They have an international warranty and service seems to be ok. Dell has negligible service in SA and most of the others seem to have lots of problems.
Last edited by NotVeryTechie; 12th March 2008 at 06:15 AM.
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12th March 2008, 06:15 AM #5Notebook Guru
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Re: Please help! Laptop decision causing grey hair
Any thoughts on the Sat Pro A200GE-26Q for the job I want to do with it, and for the future?
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13th March 2008, 07:23 AM #6Notebook Guru
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Re: Please help! Laptop decision causing grey hair
Ok so here is my choice, what do you think?
Satellite Pro A200GE-26Q
Part Number : PSAE7E-016011EN
Processor type : Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T7500
clock speed : 2.20 GHz
Front Side Bus : 800 MHz
2nd level cache : 4 MB
Operating system Genuine Windows® Vista® Home Premium Edition
System memory standard : 2,048 (1,024 + 1,024) MB
maximum expandability : 4,096 MB
technology : DDR2 RAM (667 MHz)
Hard disk capacity : 200 GB
certification : S.M.A.R.T.
HD DVD-ROM drive compatibility : CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-R(DL), DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R(DL), DVD+RW, DVD-RAM, HD DVD-ROM
maximum speed : Read: 24x CD-ROM, 8x DVD-ROM, 1x HD DVD-ROM/ Write: 24x CD-R, 4x CD-RW, 10x HS CD-RW, 10x US CD-RW, 4x DVD-R, 2x DVD-R (Double Layer), 4x DVD-RW, 4x DVD+R, 2.4x DVD+R (Double Layer), 4x DVD+RW, 3x DVD-RAM
type : HD DVD-ROM drive
Display size : 15.4 "
type : Toshiba TruBrite® WXGA TFT High Brightness display
internal resolution : 1,280 x 800
Graphics adaptor manufacturer : ATI
type : ATI Mobility™ Radeon® HD2600 supporting HyperMemory™ technology
memory : 256 MB dedicated VRAM (up to 1.023 MB total available graphics memory using HyperMemory™ technology with 2 GB system memory)
memory type : DDR Video RAM (resp. DDR Video RAM and DDR system memory combined)
connected bus : 16x PCI Express
Internal video modes resolution : 1,280 x 800
maximum number of colours : 16.7 Million
Max External Video Modes Max Resolution : 2,048 x 1,536
Max Colours : 4.3 billion
Max Refresh Rate : 85 Hz
Non-interlaced resolution with max refresh rate : 1,600 x 1,200
Interfaces
1 x DC-in
1 x external monitor
1 x RJ-11
1 x RJ-45
1 x TV-out (s-video)
1 x i.LINK® (IEEE 1394)
1 x external microphone
1 x headphone (stereo)
1 x 6-in-1 Bridge Media slot (supports SD™ Card, Memory Stick®, Memory Stick Pro™, MultiMedia Card™, xD-Picture Card™, SD™ IO)
4 (Left 2, Right 2) x USB 2.0
1 x HDMI-out
1 x integrated 1.3 Megapixel Video Camera
Expansion
2 x memory slots (1 to configure)
1 x ExpressCard slot
Wireless communication Wireless Technology : Bluetooth™
Compliancy : Wi-Fi™
Network Support : 802.11a/b/g
Wireless Technology : Wireless LAN (802.11a/b/g)
Wired communication topology : international V.92 modem
speed : 56 Kbps data and 14.4 Kbps fax
topology : Ethernet LAN
speed : 10BASE-T/100BASE-TX
Sound system supported audio format : 16-bit stereo
speakers : built-in stereo speakers
Keyboard keys : 87
Windows keys : 2
Pointing device type : Touch Pad
Battery technology : lithium-ion
maximum life : currently no official Windows Vista® battery benchmark result available
AC adaptor input voltage : autosensing AC adapter (100/240 V) for worldwide usage
Physical dimensions W x D x H : 362 x 267.8 x 33.5 (front) / 39.3 (rear) mm
weight : starting at 2.72 kg
Warranty 1-year international warranty. Upgrade your standard warranty with Toshiba warranty extension, uplift and all-risks insurance packs.
Bundled hardware AC adaptor
Bundled software Toshiba Bluetooth™ Monitor
Toshiba Disc Creator
Toshiba User's Manual
Norton Internet Security™ 2007 (includes free Internet updates for 90 days)
Ulead® DVD MovieWriter® for TOSHIBA
Toshiba Value Added Package
Supervisor Password Utility
Toshiba Assist
Toshiba HD DVD Player
Toshiba Speech System
Chicony Camera Assistant Software
Toshiba DVD Player
Free 60-day trial of Microsoft® Office Professional 2007
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition Recovery DVD-ROM
Toshiba Bluetooth™ Stack
Connectivity Doctor
ConfigFree™
Security features main battery pack (by sliding latch)
system password security
wireless LAN switch
user password
main hard disk (by screw)
supervisor password
BIOS password
main memory (by screw)
slot for Kensington Cable Lock
Special features Intel® Turbo Memory
Enhanced Intel® SpeedStep® Technology
integrated 1.3 Megapixel Video Camera for Video over IP
integrated microphone for Voice over IP
HD Audio support
SM BIOS compliant
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13th March 2008, 07:45 AM #7
Re: Please help! Laptop decision causing grey hair
That looks a good spec to me. It's faster than I would need.
However, the dedicated GPU will hit the battery life (which isn't quantified) but it might not be more than two hours. So definitely buy a spare battery (yes, they are swappable).
You might also want to look at a model which has the Intel X3100 integrated GPU. This has plenty enough performance for your applications and strategy games and is less power-hungry, so the 2 hours on battery may become 3 hours.
John
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13th March 2008, 08:06 AM #8Notebook Guru
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Re: Please help! Laptop decision causing grey hair
Oh boy, I spent sleepless nights over this and finally decided to go for the highest possible spec I could afford (well not quite, but will make up the difference somehow). I hope I am doing the right thing, I think I have developed an ulcer trying to make this decision. I still feel a little sad that I can't get the 17" screen, which I really liked, but I felt that a better spec would last me longer.



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