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Yoga 2 Pro Release Thread

Discussion in 'IdeaPad & Essential' started by ikjadoon, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. ikjadoon

    ikjadoon Notebook Deity

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    Hi! :) Lenovo has announced the Yoga 2 Pro, the Haswell (aka 4th-generation Intel processors) and Windows 8.1 update for the Yoga 13.

    Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro: Laptop Tablet Hybrid | Lenovo (US)
    Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro Datasheet
    Gizmodo's Hands-On (shows size comparison with Yoga 13)
    MobileGeeks Yoga 2 Pro in-depth Video Review (with comparisons to Yoga 13)
    (special thanks to B3RL1N for finding and posting it!)

    Release Date: October 18th, 2013 (source)

    Specifications Overview:
    • CPU options (all use Intel HD Graphics 4400 iGPUs): i7-4500U, i5-4200U, i3-4010U
    • RAM options: 8GB or 4GBof DDR3L 1600MHz, single slot (unknown whether single or dual channel)
    • 13.3" IPS LCD: 3200x1800 (276PPI) | 350-nit (same brightness as Yoga 13) | 10-point multitouch (same as Yoga 13)
    • Storage options: 512GB, 256GB, 128GB SSD
    • Battery life: 9 hours of Windows 8 (and presumably 8.1) idle @ 150 nits | 6 hours of 1080p playback @ 150 nits
    • Backlit keyboard
    • Ports: 1 USB 3.0, 1 USB 2.0, 1 micro HDMI, combo microphone/headphone jack, and 1 SD/MMC card reader
    • 0.9MP/720p front-facing camera
    • Bluetooth 4.0
    • Dolby Home Theater v4 with dual array microphones
    • Color options: Grey or Clementine Orange (same as Yoga 13)
    • 15.5mm thin | 3.06lbs weight (vs 17.1mm and 3.3lbs on Yoga 13, respectively)
    • Probably an Intel Ultrabook 2.0 (so 2x2:2 WiFi, WiDi, etc. See the full list here) | See WiFi note below
    • Price: starts at $1,100 (price liable to change, states Lenovo--this $1,100 config will be 3200x1800 screen, Core i5-4200U, 128GB SSD, and 4GB RAM)

    Battery Note:
    WiFi Note:
    Interestingly, the Datasheet shows B/G/N as the only WiFi option. :(

    Miscellaneous changelog from Yoga 13:
    • Windows Home button is now touch instead of a physical button
    • Basically every button has moved, LOL: right side now contains power button, an unknown button (OneKey Recovery?), rotation lock, volume rocker, combo microphone/headphone jack, and USB 2.0 while left side now contains: SD/MMC card reader, micro-HDMI, USB 3.0, and power jack. Thus, NO buttons on front (probably because of edge curving, noted below).
    • A rubber rim around display for better use in Tent Mode
    • Bottom/top edges curve a bit, so less boxy than Yoga 13 (see here)

    Random:
    • Will be released in same markets as Yoga 13 (source)
    • The hinge has been tested 25,000 times (source)

    Well, some good things and bad things, as expected.
     
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    ikjadoon Notebook Deity

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  3. grisjuan

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    >Bottom/top edges curve a bit, so less boxy than Yoga 13

    My first reaction is that I don't love this aspect of the new look - I really liked the boxy look of my Yoga13 v1.

    Still no word on which wireless card it uses!
     
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    If they call it an Ultrabook, which I think is likely, it must have 2x2:2 WiFi and WiDi. See Ultrabook 2.0 requirements in OP. WiDi is basically only on Intel wireless cards (one or two Broadcom chipsets have it, though). Thus, 2x2:2 WiFi chip likely from Intel.
     
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    Good point, the reviews did use the word Ultrabook so maybe there is good reason to be hopeful that the painful RealTek card from the Yoga 1 is gone!
     
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    Dat retina. Way to copy apple :rolleyes:

    U or Y series CPU?
     
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    Still waiting for those Haswell Thinkpads and 750M Bays...
     
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    Can any one please tell me how would be the experience of working on MSoffice on 13.3" screen of 3200x1800 resolution? Good or bad?

    Like everything of Yoga 2, but worried about small font and display. Not sure if that would be comfortable for eyes because of high resolution and small fonts.
     
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    My thought exactly. When manufacturers create these ridiculously high res 13" laptop, they should really take into consideration that some people actually use them to do work, and it's not ideal for viewing emails or webpages with large amounts of text.
     
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    Windows 8.1 is said to improve scaling. Let's hope they deliver that promise.
     
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    In pictures, the old Yoga certainly looks better with its symmetrical book-like design. But actually viewing it from an upper angle, you're probably see that it's just boxy and bulky. I think the new design will actually help the book-like design when viewed from upper angles.
     
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    Wifi Chip confirmed to be Intel. Will be a 2230 like the Y series/Z series, but can be upgraded to AC.
     
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    All Haswell ultrabooks I've seen, including the Sony Vaio Pro 13, Acer S7-392 use "Intel Dual Band Wireless-N 7260" (which I have on my laptop BTW) while the Dell XPS 12 Haswell uses "Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260" Even the u430 touch Haswell use the "Intel Wireless-N 7260" Intel is really pushing the 7260 series for ultrabooks while the Centrino 2230 for multimedia laptops, and Intel Advanced / Ultimate-N series for business laptops. I bet when Haswell arrives on Lenovo business laptops, they will have the Dual Band Wireless-N 7260 as the upgrade for ThinkPad BGN while the AC version for the most expensive upgrade. I still think Lenovo might keep the Ultimate-N 6300 along with the 7260 series for their Haswell business notebooks. This is just my opinion BTW.
     
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    Y (tablet-series) only goes up to i5. Probably the U (laptop-series), then, as they go the i7. But, they use the same socket, so maybe both as options. But, my money's on the U series, as that battery life estimate isn't huge.

    Depends on the technology. IGZO consumes less at high-res, but amorphous silicon consumes more high-res. But, it will definitely be an increase in GPU consumption, though.

    Scaling will be better than most high-res displays, but it won't beat 1600x900: Windows 8.1 now allows 200% scaling, which replicates 1600x900 exactly because 3200x1800 is exactly double 1600x900! Great news, right? Except that some applications don't work well with ANY scaling. So, those will look either stretched, pixelated, or tiny. :( But, the Windows UI, etc. should look exactly the same size as a 1600x900 screen.

    Really?! That's good to hear. Where did you find this? I Google'd without avail. :(
     
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    Was in the comments on some site, some guy said he worked at Lenovo. Mentioned it was Intel, then the guy under said it will probably be 2230. Rumors, rumors...

    Anyways, the Z series is getting a makeover with the Flex. I made a thread on it, return to the Ideapad forum and see for yourself. You can even buy the Flex now. It's basically a poor man's Yoga.
     
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    On September 1, Intel released hordes of new Haswell CPUs. The most relevant to us is Core i5 4300U, Core i7 4600U, Core i5 4300Y and Core i7 4610Y.

    The 4300U and 4600U is a very good replacement to the 4200U and 4500U as it adds 300MHz frequency to both Base and Turbo frequencies. That's a 19% gain for the i5 and 17% for the i7! I feel almost sorry for the 4500U adopters as now the much cheaper 4300U has 100MHz higher Base frequency but 100MHz less Turbo frequency. Even the GPU is raised on the new i5 to be up on par with old i7! That means they are equals, and I'd say the 4300U is even slightly better as the guaranteed clock is higher. The 4600U is now a full no-compromise replacement to the Ivy Bridge based 3687U with equal frequencies but better perf/clock and GPU.

    Now for the Y, the 4310Y has 1.6/2.3GHz frequency and 4610Y has 1.7/2.9GHz frequency. You are getting slightly less than 4200U with much lower 11.5W TDP while getting better performance with the i7 4610Y. With the 3rd Generation Core Y, I wouldn't have considered it over a U, but with the 4th Gen, it closes the gap significantly. With the Y chips you are getting 10% increase in perf/clock in addition to 7-13% gain in frequency depending on the chip version. I'd say that's a pretty impressive refresh for both lines.

    The Yoga series were never the most efficient of the Ultrabooks and this adds a super high resolution, which in Macbooks were the reason for having 30-40% greater battery capacity to achieve same battery life as the previous generation.
     
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    Liking what I see so far. Right now I'm debating between this, AB9+, and UX301 with i7/8GB/256GB.

    Sent from my GALAXY NOTE II
     
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    Those units will easily be $1700 plus based on that config.

    Does anyone have any guess to what an i7/8gb/128 GB SSD Yoga Pro 2 will cost, someone more familiar with the platform? Early Oct or late?
     
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    Yeah, I'm willing to spend $2000 with those specs, as long as there aren't any issues with the keyboard, fan, wi-fi, and trackpad.


    Sent from my GALAXY NOTE II
     

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