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astrohip · Apr 1, 2021

saturnotaku said: ↑

Intel's 45W 11th-generation H-Series CPUs are imminent so I would hold off to see how Dell implements them on the XPS line. My guess would be a June or July street date, though it could be sooner given the rather poor reception of their Rocket Lake desktop parts. I would expect the 17-inch model to receive a 60-65W RTX 3060 GPU but am hopeful it also appears on the XPS 15. Otherwise the 1650 Ti will probably carry over on the smaller model.
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Thanks, good info.

custom90gt · Apr 2, 2021

saturnotaku said: ↑

The RTX 2060 is a Max-Q so yes, it's going to be slower. I wish Dell would have put this GPU into the XPS 15. The decision must have been based on thermals for the particular chassis since the 1650 Ti's TGP is just about half of the 17's RTX 2060 Max-Q. I don't see overall portability as a factor since the 17's 130W adapter isn't what you'd call bulky.

Thermal throttling is the 17's biggest problem, which I think could have been partially alleviated had Dell offered a pairing of the i7 10750H with the 2060. With Dell releasing BIOS updates that allow undervolting again on some of their newer Alienware laptops, I'm hopeful the same will happen with the XPS. In the meantime, tweaking Speed Shift and power limits in ThrottleStop has helped quite a bit. There is a performance loss, but it hasn't been significant enough to have a severely detrimental impact on the work and play I do with this laptop.

Said losses are more than offset by its other positive attributes. My unit has none of the build quality problems that plagued early versions. It's a large laptop, no doubt, but I've not found it any more uncomfortable to use around the house than a MacBook Pro 16 or thicker gaming-focused laptops I've used like the Lenovo Legion 5 or HP Omen 15. Battery life has been great even with the 4K display. With half brightness with WiFi and Bluetooth on I can push 8-9 hours, though 6-7 is more realistic. The screen offers almost OLED-like contrast but with none of its downsides (color accuracy and power consumption that vary wildly based on brightness, potential for burn-in). It's not a gaming laptop, but it's more than powerful enough for what I do want to play.

Having gone through at least a dozen different laptops of varying shapes, sizes, and purposes over the last 18 months, the XPS 17 is proving to be the least compromised for my usage. The only other one that would even come close is the Razer Blade Pro with the 4K/120 display. While it certainly has its own advantages over the XPS, it wasn't worth the $1,000 ($1,300-$1,500 when factoring in an extended warranty) price premium.
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You can re-enable undervolting on the XPS17 with bios flags, it helped mine quite a bit but it still throttled. And for me the 9700 was too big, especially considering I have a 9500 and a 9310 at home. The 2060 (even max-q) would have been perfect in the 15, but we will see what dell releases next. I loved my Razer, but their support is so terrible I won't ever buy one of their products again.

saturnotaku · Apr 2, 2021

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The 2060 (even max-q) would have been perfect in the 15, but we will see what dell releases next. I loved my Razer, but their support is so terrible I won't ever buy one of their products again.
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I would have even been OK with a 1660 Ti Max-Q in the XPS 15. I wouldn't put it past Dell that the decision to leave the 2060 out of it was intentional to get more people into the 17. Regarding Razer, I love their hardware, peripherals included. However, if you're going to charge Apple-like prices for your computers, you need to provide Apple-like customer service. When I was daily driving my MacBook Pro (it's been nearly a decade now), the few times it needed service, I received exemplary care. I've read far too many Razer horror stories on this forum and elsewhere to trust them with such a pricey laptop.

saturnotaku · Apr 7, 2021 at 5:09 PM

New XPS 17 9700 BIOS dropped - version 1.7.2

Fixes:
- Fixed the issue where the system shuts down after the BIOS.exe update when the battery is low.
- Fixed the issue where Express sign-in does not work after updating the BIOS to version 1.6.2.
- Fixed the issue where PC isn't charging message is displayed when you disconnect and reconnect the system to Dell WD15 and TB16 dock.
- Fixed the issue where Dell Power Manager message is displayed when you disconnect and reconnect the system to Dell WD15 and TB16 dock.

Enhancements:
- Reduced coil whine noise that occurs after the AC adapter is connected.
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Dell XPS 17 9700 and Dell Precision 5750 System BIOS | Driver Details | Dell US

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