XPS 15 9560 owners thread.

Discussion in 'Dell XPS and Studio XPS' started by GoNz0, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. Philaphlous

    Philaphlous Notebook Evangelist

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    OK so I've got a list of to-do's already before I even order my 9560...

    1. Install my 512GB SanDisk X400 m.2 SATAIII SSD
    2. Repaste the CPU and GPU
    3. Check contact of Vram thermal pads. I have some cheap extras right now in my possession but higher quality extras may be needed...
    4. XTU Undervolt that CPU!!!!
    5. Find max overclock on the GPU!

    Thing should be rockin! Excited to hear some initial impressions
     
  2. GoNz0

    GoNz0 Laptop Engineer & Online games hosting.

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    Scrap 5, this is an ultrabook. It will throttle undervolted at stock.
     
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    pressing Notebook Deity

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    Sorry kirth - I could have sworn I saw 2x32GB late last year but there is nothing. Probably a mistake on my part and the huge laptops with 64GB are running 4x16GB kits...
     
  4. jefflackey

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    I'll be monitoring this thread closely. My needs are light, long battery life, video editing (amateur level - Cyberlink PowerDirector and/or Adobe Premiere Elements.) For the Skylake systems, I'd been leaning to the Precision 5510 rather than the XPS 15 just because it seemed like the QC was a lot better for those and frankly the problems thread here had me worried I'd be exchanging and having to "fix" the XPS 15 more than I wanted to. I've been using PCs since my Apple ][ in 1980 so I'm no novice, and I've had Dell laptops (typically about 3 at any time between me, my wife, and a kid) for many years. I was also a writer in the computer magazine world (back when there were magazines!) and that included articles on building a computer from scratch, so not afraid to open a machine up. My current laptop is a massive Alienware M17x that's several years old - lots of power but weighs about 150 pounds (slight exaggeration) and only has about 1 hour battery life at this point, even with a new battery (no exaggeration) and is too hot to hold on my lap within minutes of starting up. I travel a lot so I need something light, as much battery life as possible, with a quad core CPU, and the quad core CPU+light+long battery life surprisingly narrows it down to the Dells.

    But at this point in my life I don't want to be constantly farting around trying to make the notebook work right. From what I've read on these forums, the Precision 5510 was more reliable and QC was better than the XPS 15, with the only real downside being the GPU being less powerful. If both machines were the same reliability I'd buy the XPS. So - I'll be watching here closely to see if the new Kaby Lake XPS 15 has all the bugs and warts worked out and lessons learned from the Skylake one.
     
  5. Philaphlous

    Philaphlous Notebook Evangelist

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    So, from what I have read with the SL models... throttling is happening more on the VRM side of things rather than actual core temperatures? I've been reading up on the undervolting and repasting...seeing temps in the 50's under load for most...I'd think the laptop can maintain a constant max clock if the core is in the 50's...is that not the case?
     
  6. einsteinchen

    einsteinchen Notebook Geek

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    Yes, the high temperature of the voltage regulator module (VRM) lets the CPU throttle. This was the case for my 9550, where the CPU went down to 800 MHz. First a Dell technician replaced the board an cooling unit, which did not really help (CPU at 1100 MHz). Then I did a repaste and undervolted the CPU, which solved the problem for me. Please have a look at my post, you see that undervolting improved temps more than repasting. I did not use liquid metal (LM) http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ndervolt-repaste.785963/page-52#post-10342760
    Regarding the max clock: if only the CPU is under load, my 9550 with i7 6700HQ can hold the turbo at 3100 MHz. If the CPU and GPU is used, the CPU will go down to ~2500 MHz, check again the link from this post. It shows my 9550 under CPU and GPU load.
     
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    einsteinchen Notebook Geek

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    Please check if the 7th intel Core-i CPU generation is fully compatible with XTU. I had problems undervolting my 6700HQ with XTU and ended up using ThrottleStop, which worked much better. However, every new CPU gen can require special setting in ThrottleStop. For Skylake the CPU core and CPU cach offset had to be the same, otherwise the undevolt was not working.
     
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  8. Philaphlous

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    Gotchya... Yea. Looks like you also still had some major heat issues on the core temps... Kaby is supposed to be a much more refined version of SkyLake so I'm hoping the leakage and temperatures are a heck of alot better. Watching people overclocking and their temps over on OCN thread for the 7700k seems like thermals are much better and voltages are extremely low compared to SL...
     
  9. einsteinchen

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    Well, considering the temperatures other people reported from their 9550 with 6700HQ, I can not complain ^^. But in general you are right, the temps are not ideal. I also had an Alienware 15 R2 with 6700HQ CPU and the temps were much better, which was due to the better colling system. In my experience, the smaller a computing device, the higher the temperatures of similar CPUs. But lets see what Kabylake can offer in the thermals department :)
     
  10. Philaphlous

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    I'm probably a month away from ordering my 9560. I've got a bunch of desktop parts I'm selling so I'm hoping I can get at least 80-90% of my XPS 15 paid for before I order it... I'll be getting the i5 version so that alone will help with temps. I'm more concerned with battery life and keeping the noise down... new paste and undervolt should do wonders.
     
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