XPS 15 7590 Dual Drive Configuration

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Is a dual hard drive configutation possible on the XPS 7590

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  1. pwr2wh8

    pwr2wh8 Newbie

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    Finally looking to upgrade my XPS 15, however for me, internal storage capacity is a higher priority over battery. I'm trying to confirm if all models are capable of a dual drive setup with a smaller battery. Reading some of the manuals, there looks to be an option for a hard drive with the use of a smaller battery as with previous models, however the smaller battery is only available on the 9300H. Reps from Dell seem to state a dual drive not possible.
     
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  2. Double 0

    Double 0 Notebook Geek

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    I’m not the expert but From what I saw it’s possible.... you can get the I7 but you will have to buy and swap in the smaller battery plus you will need the 2.5 bracket and ribbon cable
     
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    custom90gt Doc Mod Super Moderator

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    It's easy to tell which models come with the smaller battery, just look for the ones with the 56whr battery. That also means that sadly the higher end systems come with the larger battery so like Double 0 said, you'd have to buy the smaller battery and the bracket/cable.
     
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    pwr2wh8 Newbie

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    wonder when you'll be able to purchase these components seperately
     
  5. pressing

    pressing Notebook Deity

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    I don't think Dell ever offered the 56whr battery, the HDD cradle, the SATA cable for sale as retail parts for the essentially similar XPS 9550, 9560, 9570 models. Not sure why they would change.

    If you search the forums, you can see some Chinese sources for parts that might have worked. Some people questioned if full SATA III speeds were available on that bus but I never saw any convincing data either way. It really didn't matter when people were throwing big HDDs in that slot.

    If you are throwing in a big new SSD but it is crippled by say 3Gb/s bus, that would be irritating and bad allocation of $. If the bus indeed is that slow, a HDD might make more sense, although it will be a bit slower, noiser, and maybe power hungry; I couldn't get my stock 1TB SSD to stop whining in my 9550 so I just unplugged it.

    Given low prices of nvme drives today, I think it makes sense to buy a big nvme drive and keep the big battery.
     
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    magicbri Newbie

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    I have ridden my 1st Gen 9530 as long as I can and am now looking to upgrade. The biggest barrier I see is storage capacity. My 9530 has a 1tb msata and a 4gb 2.5 ssd. I own a media production company that does graphic design, photo and video, so there are always tons of huge files, templates and resources in play. I am having a hard time with the concept of constantly needing an external drive to function. I rarely run on battery so the idea of the smaller battery with a 2.5 slot seems close to ideal (ideal would have been a second msata slot like the Aero, IBM and others offer). Has anyone successfully gotten a 2nd drive into the 7590 yet? How did it perform?
     
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    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    I'll note both ports show up in the BIOS, but that doesn't mean much.

    The Precision 5540 (Precision variant of the XPS 7590) allows for dual drives to be configured from the factory. Lots more options on that model, too.
     
  8. Thysanoptera

    Thysanoptera Notebook Consultant

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    I had a look at it and there are two weird config options:
    1. Can't select 64GB RAM and 3-cell battery.
    2. Can configure it with two 2.5 inch drives. That's an obvious error, just wondering what will they send if you order it like that.
     
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    Resident Geek Newbie

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    I've done a dual drive config with an i5 XPS 15 7590 ordered with the small battery and it works perfectly. There's some significant mis-information in this thread. The laptop comes with an Nvme SSD which can be upgraded if desired (mine was from Hynix and I upgraded to a bigger Samsung 970 without any issues).

    The 7590 with the small battery oddly comes with the mounting frame for the 2.5 inch drive bay but no proprietary SATA cable. The cable is the same as for earlier versions of the XPS 15 and this one on Amazon Prime for $11 works fine: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B5DK24E/ If you want to save a few bucks and can wait weeks for it to arrive from China you can find the same cable cheaper on eBay.

    And the person claiming you can't buy the smaller 56 watt hour batteries is also dead wrong. If you buy a higher-end 7590 with the big battery you should be able to "downgrade" to the smaller battery. You won't have the 2.5 inch drive frame but you can just use double sided foam tape to secure the drive along with the cable.

    You simply pop in a 2.5 inch drive with the above cable and you're good to go. You can also easily dual boot into say Win10 and Linux from BIOS after adding the second drive.

    As an aside, I can say the 7590 is a bit picky about RAM. Some Kingston 2666 DDR4 2x8GB RAM failed to boot while working perfectly in another Dell laptop. Mine came with dual 4GB Hynix 2666 modules.

    And for those considering a 7590 don't get too excited about the i7 over the i5. The i5 still has 4 real cores and 8 virtual cores. It benchmarks at nearly 10,000 on Passmark which isn't far off the i7. And it also blissfully rarely has to spin the fans up. There are lots of complaints about the higher spec 7590's with nVidia graphics having frequent and obnoxious fan noise. You have to pick your poison. I'd rather give up a bit of performance for peace and quiet and longer battery life. In fact, the small battery with the i5 has been shown to outlast the big battery with an i7 and 4K display. And you can have two drives. :)
     
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  10. custom90gt

    custom90gt Doc Mod Super Moderator

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    I don't see where this misinformation is though. No one said it didn't come with an NVMe drive, it was mentioned that you'd have to buy the cable (surprised it comes with the caddy though), and no one said you couldn't buy the 56whr battery (just difficult to do directly from Dell).

    Thanks for listing the part number and also doing the testing.
     
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