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Xoticpc copper cooling upgrade?

Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by DdudeACE, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. fantomasz

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    Many of us NEVER use the optical drive bay and could yank it.

    Wouldn't it be great if heat pipes led to sinks/fan where the yanked optical drive was?
     
  3. Seanzky

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    But most who don't use that bay use it for a third hard drive. Also the second hard drive, at least for the P170EM, is right there with it. Introducing heat there and potential data loss are two big no-no's.

    But if you modify your caddy and put an intake fan there instead, now that would be helpful. Especially if you make it so that there's a partition that redirects the fan's intake towards the back. It can sweep all the warm air towards the back an out of the exhaust. This would be especially handy if you have the copper heatsinks on the copper pipes/surfaces.

    EDIT: When you said "Many of us NEVER use the optical drive bay and could yank it", you probably meant yourself and a handful of others?
     
  4. BenWah

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    Most use it for a third hard drive? I don't think so!
     
  5. Seanzky

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    When the Malibal forum was still up I saw a lot of guys, who claimed to have a USB optical drive, opting for a third HDD.

    [​IMG]

    Like I said, most went for a third hard drive despite what you think.
     
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    Agreed. If it is not filled with an optical drive, the most popular alternative (at least here on NBR) seems to be a hard drive in a optical drive bay caddy.
     
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    That would be horrible, I'd have hot air blowing onto my hand. That's the dumbest idea. And plus don't need it, already runs cool. 7970M operates up to 120C I believe.
     
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    That's another thing. Hot air blowing into your hand. Lol.

    Forget having a second or third HDD for the 17" Clevos, say hello to first degree burn. Lol.
     
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    If you aren't interested in cooling, why are you reading this thread?


    I'll admit I do not understand how this idea translates into burning your hand.
     
  10. Seanzky

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    You know how the copper pipes leads to the radiator fins in the back where the fan blows through them? Under stress, the air coming out of there gets pretty hot. You want to replicate that where the optical bay is? I'm sure that the vast majority here will agree that the answer is "no, it wouldn't be great if heat pipes led to sinks/fan were put there".

    Also, if you run the copper pipes from the CPU/GPU towards the optical bay, even if there aren't any hard drives there for you to ruin, you'd be running the copper pipes near other components in that distance. So now you're passing heat there, too. Note that distance is longer compared to the current pipes. So you're actually spreading the heat around inside so you can have a fan where the optical bay is to blow the hot air to your hand and mouse. That's not winning.
     
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    Thank you for explaining that air expelled from a laptop is hot. Who knew?

    So you think GPU heat pipe should be removed since it heats the surrounding area and components? um...

    OK, I never have my right hand up against the laptop. I use a wireless trackball. OK, it's not for everyone to have a fan there, but listen... If you look at the width of the drive bay, it's quite wide. The fan output could be similarly wide, dispersing the heat over a good area so you don't get a narrow jet of blasting heat.

    I bet less than 10% of people who own these laptops have a drive in the optical bay. I bet more than 50% of them never use the optical bay. OK I just made that up, but there's a lot of people who would find some use of the bay area interesting.
     
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    Disagree. Probably maybe 10% have a HDD in the optical drive. And maybe you should try putting your hand on the vent behind the laptop, air is hot and that air is large, the whole dispersal is hot.

    You're not making any sense. Putting a vent right where people use their mouse for gaming is just asinine. Even if the air wasn't hot, having air blown in that direction would still be asinine and annoying.
     
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    Make it an intake-> problem solved.
     
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    It's opinion guys. Some use optical, some have an extra Hdd.. We should try to keep this topic on track. Couple of you dont need cooling solutions, you should be enjoying your machine :D

    Like that suggestion a lot R3d.. The optical bay is a decent sized space.. You'd have to mod the bottom of the case for the fan to suck air in from the bottom, and have a fan that pushed shed air out the side. I don't think they have fans that would intake well from the side (make a grated cover or something) and push that air out the other side. That would push air over the fins on these extra copper pieces, just have to see about alling that air to exit somewhere properly though
     
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    Precisely what I said. If someone who don't want to use it for an optical drive or a 2nd/3rd (for 15"/17") HDD, mod the caddy to hold an intake fan. Not an exhaust. That's just crazy talk.
     
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    Not everyone habitually puts their hand by the optical bay, you understand?
    I know I don't.

    Just because it isn't for everyone doesn't mean it doesn't make any sense or is asinine.
     
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    Again, try putting your hand where the vent is in the back under load. The hot air is blown quite far. And where do you put your hand, when you use the mouse? Unless you are lefty, it would be where the optical bay is. Your arm and hand would be getting scorched.
     
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    I think there is a far larger percent of people who do not use their optical drive, compared to the number of people who use the optical drive for hard drive or ssd storage. I said it was speculation when I first wrote it.

    The point is there is a lot of people who aren't using the optical drive bay space, and wouldn't it be great if people came up with an idea to use it for cooling.

    We can turn the fan around so it blows in, or some people might not have their hand there and it can blow out. There can be multiple ideas.
    If you need to shout down ideas calling them "crazy" and "asinine" it's ok with me, not every idea is for everyone.
     
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    I doubt they pay $6, probably $2 from the manufacturer :)
     

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