XOTIC PC Copper Cooling upgrade option - Marketing or functional?

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  1. adampk17

    adampk17 Notebook Consultant

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    Hello -

    I'm considering ordering a Sager NP8652 from XOTIC PC as soon as they become available, but my question isn't notebook specific really.

    XOTIC PC offers a $79 copper cooling upgrade option.

    $79 isn't too much for me, if this is an actual functional investment that really lowers temps in a appreciable way. I tried to search the forums for any threads that may pertain to this cooling upgrade but I didn't locate any. Perhaps I just missed it.

    Have you seen any threads about this service that XOTIC PC offeres, perhaps you've ordered it yourself? I'm looking for opinions or facts. Is this service functional or just another way to milk $79 out of me?


    Thanks!
     
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    adampk17 Notebook Consultant

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    Is there a better forum to post this question in?
     
  3. LunaP

    LunaP Dame Ningen

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    You're in the correct forum just give people time to find your thread and provide their feedback. There was mention of this before however I'd need to look up one of my old threads to find it. I'm currently at work so next break I'll check.

    Ok did a quick check and I had asked the exact same question in an older thread ( 2012 )

    Here are some of the responses I received.

    However times have changed and people above didn't speculate as to why, so I'd still wait for others to provide their feedback on this we as well.

    Here's a more helpful one that goes into detail. ( Same thread )


    Hope this helps some.
     
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    Thanks a ton, LunaP. You really went above and beyond looking up that older thread for me.

    I'll continue to hope that others will respond to this thread with more recent info or opinions too.
     
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    It's functional if you can pass some air over the heatsinks. Otherwise, it just delays the system reaching the same peak temps by 5-10 minutes.
     
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    McAudi Notebook Consultant

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    i would just get a laptop fan cooler or something for like 1/3 price
     
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    If you cut holes in the bottom cover and use a cooler it can massively drop temperatures but that does impact the portability of the machine.
     
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    Laptop cooler does next to nothing. The primary benefit you get is it will prop up the laptop a few degrees which will improve airflow into the chassis. Unless you can cool the air coming up through the laptop cooler fans, it won't make a lot of difference.

    Yep. I've done that on several occasions but in the end a good thermal paste and application by the user and propping up the back end of the laptop have resulted in best temps compromise. Anything more requires modding hardware which is a big step for most users and aren't willing to commit to. But if you want to OC like crazy then extreme modding measures are likely needed too.
     
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    So the bulk of the benefit you get from a laptop cooler is just it propping the laptop up, which improves airflow? The fan(s) in the cooler sound a lot like this cooper cooling upgrade: unnecessary.

    Thanks for your answers everyone. :)
     
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    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    I might be getting a Notepal U3 cooler fairly soon as a late birthday present. If and when I get it, I will test it versus the propping up of the machine I am currently using (for each back rubber foot, folding four 2-ply toilet paper blocks into a square that's barely bigger than the rubber feet of my laptop itself and using that for propping, as well as the same method for the front feet, except using three 2-ply blocks instead of four, and it folds into a rectangle). I have been able to get 10-15 degrees temperature drops using max fans with this method; using IC Diamond on my GPUs and Arctic Céramiqué 2 on the CPU, versus not propping up at all or only using two 2-ply blocks of paper per rubber foot (not enough raising).

    If the Notepal U3 cooler drops my temperatures more, then the Jury's out for that. Propping up does not get much better than how I have it as far as I could see. If it worsens temperatures in any way or only provides equal bonuses, then I will simply have to recommend against a cooler for users with great internal cooling already.

    Please note: if your internal heatsinks or thermal paste applications are bad, even holding your laptop sideways into a fan won't do a bloody thing to bring temps down a lot (trust me; I've tried before when my thermal paste evaporated on my CPU. It still got way way too hot). If you try propping and good TIM applications etc and your temperatures still remain fairly high, then your heatsinks might be the problem, and should look at it via RMA. If you are out of warranty, buying new heatsinks (and lapping them too) will help the most.
     
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