*** XMG Apex 15 with Ryzen 3950X / Clevo NH58AF1 Owner's Lounge ***

Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by taraquin, Apr 15, 2020.

  1. MyHandsAreBurning

    MyHandsAreBurning Notebook Guru

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    One of my important computing tasks takes up to 4GB ram per thread(!) so sometimes I disable hyperthreading when running it, and even then I cap out. Other memory hogs include running multiple virtual machines at once, which runs much smoother with more RAM.

    Check that your ssd is in the pcie 3 slot - mine came from aftershock in the pice 2.
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    That's a decent chunk of ram for a thread lol. A portable VM box is the use case I saw for it.
     
  3. Happypath

    Happypath Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm pretty happy with how my unit handles VR, I get 72C on the GPU (2070) and 63C on the CPU (3900 set to 3.3GHz at 0.975V) and a steady 80 frames per second on the highest settings in HL Alyx with a Rift S. For less graphics intensive VR apps I normally limit the GPU's clock speed to 1500 MHz and get even lower temps with pretty low fan noise. It's nice to have a portable VR setup like this :)
     
  4. leoneazzurro

    leoneazzurro Newbie

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    I tried everything about that but even without these apps in execution (well I am not sure about services) and that still happened. The issue happened once/twice every two weeks and in the end I decided to remove the battery completely. At least, this sped up the restart. I tried even flashing the most recent BIOS available without having it resolved. I tried latest XMG BIOS and at the moment it has not yet appened again, but it's only two weeks and it may be a coincidence. Note that this voids your warranty - but I have no possibility to send it back for "repair" - thing that I doubt is even possible in case of a software/firmware problem.

    By the way, I have a PC Specialist version, and PC Specialist Service was absolutely terrible. They negated the issue happening with PC Specialist firmware, (well I was the living proof this was not true), attributed the issue to Windows asking for a clean install (sic, and everything is running perfectly except for the keyboard issue) , I pointed out them this thread saying there were other people across several vendors having the same issue but they negated again and when in all honesty I said that I tried to use a non-PCS BIOS for solving the issue they banned me from the forum for "wasting their time" when my intention was to point out to them a potential flaw and not certainly wasting time. But evidently it was untolerable fo them to admit publicly there was something fishy about this keyboard issue. Absolute ********. I wonder if other Clevo vendors behave this way, because this is a very serious problem making me wonder if I would ever go again for a custom laptop from their subvendors (from PC Specialist I will not buy anything more for sure - and this was my second laptop from them).
     
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  5. seba84_2005

    seba84_2005 Notebook Enthusiast

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  6. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Maybe, but maybe an ITX system ;) :p
     
  7. taraquin

    taraquin Notebook Consultant

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    Have you tried undervolting with afterburner and curve editor? You may be able to run 1500MHz@700mv which should decrease temps/noise quite a bit compared to underclock which probably has vol5age running around 800-900mv@1500MHz.
     
  8. taraquin

    taraquin Notebook Consultant

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    I hope Clevo all8ws for Ryzen 5000 support. We know the powerusage is on pair with 3000-series and the regular 65W limit should be a good option here aswell. Seems like they use the same nodes as on the XT-series which makes it possible to run 2-300MHz higher at same voltage compared to the usual yield of non-XT-parts. Perhaps 4GHz is doable at 1V? :)

    Has anyone tried ram OC above 3200? Is it possible through ryzen master? I would guess that relaxing voltage sensitive timings like the 3 primaries, tRAS, tRC and tRFC would make it possible to run ram faster than 3200. From what I have seen good ICs can easily do 3200cl20, some do cl18. 3600@cl22 should be possible if you can change it i RM.
     
  9. monstercameron

    monstercameron Notebook Enthusiast

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    looks like we might be screwed :(

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    Dear ----,
    Because the new line up CPUs all have wattage over 65W, they will not be included in NH57ADS's compatibility list.
    Thank you for your understanding,
     
  10. leoneazzurro

    leoneazzurro Newbie

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    Well, that is not true for the 5600X, this CPU has 65W TDP. And, BTW, the 3950X used in many current configurations has 105W TDP but it is running in ECO Mode, that is limited at 65W (88W in reality). So it's the easy excuse for not doing anything and force you to buy a new model...
     
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