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x120e, SATA II or SATA III

Discussion in 'ThinkPad Edge, X1, X100e/X120e, & SL/L' started by abachofner, Mar 11, 2011.

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  1. sugarkang

    sugarkang Notebook Evangelist

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    I'd also like to know the answer to this. My x120e is set to arrive this Friday, but I only own SATA II drives. More than like 95% likely, however, is that this will support SATA3.

    Mr Raider's link is somewhat reassuring, but not 100% definitive. Manufacturers cripple things for whatever stupid reason all the time. Here's something a little more assuring, but still not 100%:

    "All upcoming AMD Fusion APUs will have one thing in common, they will share the Hudson Fusion Controller Hub (FCH) and the Hudson will be available in seven distinct variants aimed at three market segments.

    Three versions are reserved for AMD's new notebook platforms. All feature support for up to six SATA 6Gbps devices and four second generation PCIe x1 GPPs. Hudson M1 is will take care of Brazos/Ontario."
     
  2. vally

    vally Notebook Enthusiast

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    I was hoping for SATA 3 (6Gbps) speeds from the Intel 510 SSD I put in my Lenovo X120e but unfortunately it seems to be gimped to SATA 2 speeds because Crystal Disk Mark was reporting 250mb sequential read speeds where if it was full throttle it should be around 450mb. Nevertheless it boots up in about 30 seconds and applications open up in a couple of seconds or so, I just wouldn't pay extra for a SATA 3 SSD if it was destined to spend its lifetime in this netbook. I was asking myself this question 2 months ago also and was hopeful that the AMD specs would hold true, but vendors sometimes neuter it for whatever reason.
     
  3. sugarkang

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    Just because it's 250 sequential doesn't mean it's SATA2. It might be that the AMD E350 is too weak to do more than that. In fact, I'd say if you're above 240MB/sec, it's almost proof that you have SATA3. There's overhead with SATA2 and you wouldn't reach the total 250MB/sec in real life.

    That's little consolation though. Because it's still real life SATA2.
     
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    jw8725 Notebook Geek

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    Hi all, I have an Agility III connected to the x120e on Windows Ultimate on a clean install I'll be happy to run some tests for you, what would you like? Thanks.
     
  5. sugarkang

    sugarkang Notebook Evangelist

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    Crystal Mark should be fine. We just need you to get above 250MB/sec on anything. That'll confirm.
     
  6. jw8725

    jw8725 Notebook Geek

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    link please?
     
  7. sugarkang

    sugarkang Notebook Evangelist

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    CrystalDiskMark - Software - Crystal Dew World

    Doesn't even need an install. Just run the exe. Oh, and set the pull down menu to "50MB" so you don't use up your writes on the SSD. If you get some nice numbers, I might dump my Vertex 2.
     
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    jw8725 Notebook Geek

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    sugarkang Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for doing this. Your numbers looks just as horrible as mine.

    Vertex 2 in my Sony VAIO YB:
    [​IMG]


    Vertex 2 in my desktop SATA2
    [​IMG]
     
  10. jw8725

    jw8725 Notebook Geek

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    My results are dire. I may start to comfort eat.
     
  11. sugarkang

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    Whatever this crap is, it's not the manufacturer. Someone said they got really high write speeds though on an AMD E350. This is still an unsolved mystery.
     
  12. jw8725

    jw8725 Notebook Geek

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    Maybe its my settings? Is there something I'm missing here cos my readings are really low. Did I need to activate TRIM support or something somewhere? Thanks.
     
  13. sugarkang

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    I'm getting the same performance numbers that you are. The screenshot with high numbers is on my desktop.
     
  14. sugarkang

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    Houston, we either have an OCZ/Sandforce problem or an AMD E-350 problem. Either way, my Kingston V+100 does not have crippled writes. So, it's possible to get the full speed on the AMD E-350, but not with OCZ/Sandforce.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. hellsy

    hellsy Notebook Enthusiast

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    I also have Vertex 2 in mine, and i got the following:


    [​IMG]
     
  16. sugarkang

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    I'm curious to know if iTunes opens up any faster on SATA III. But then again, I'm uploading all my crap to Google Music right now, so maybe it won't even matter in a week.
     
  17. sugarkang

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    If there was any doubt remaining at all, here's my bench with a C300 64GB. It's supposed to do 350MB / 70MB. It seems limited at 250MB, suggesting SATA II.

    [​IMG]
     
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    greenythebeast Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just did a benchmark with my new Kingston V+100 96GB SSD. Does this seem like normal?

    [​IMG]
     
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    The results for my Vertex 2 are pretty crappy as well. Less than half the 4K read speeds I get with other laptops.

    [​IMG]
     

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    This seems to be a recurring trend with OCZ SSD's, if you're not satisfied with the speed, you can always RMA it. I noticed that a few of their flash drives that I purchased don't really live up to the fast speed claims or promises either.
     
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