Would you trade your M18xR2 for a desktop?

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  1. ht_addict

    ht_addict Notebook Evangelist

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    Here are specs of the desktop. My laptop specs are in my sig.

    Case: Enthoo Primo Black
    MB: MSI MPower Max
    CPU: Intel I5 4690K
    Ram: G.Skill RipjawX 2133 16gb (2 x 8 )
    GPU: 2 x ZOTAC 980
    PSU: Corsair CX750
    10 x Sharkoon Shark Blade
    SSD OS HyperX 120GB
    HDD Seagate 4X500GB RAID0 1.5TB 7200trm

    CPU block EK Supremacy Acetal Clean CSQ
    GPU Block 2 x EK-FC980 GTX - Acetal clean CSQ
    Ram Block EKWB - EK-RAM Monarch Acetal clean csq
    2 x backplate Clean CSQ black
    res: EK-DDC X-RES 250 CSQ - Acetal DDC
    Pump MCP35x PWM
    EK DDC x-res
    16 x Bitspower C47
    EK Tubing
    Rad: 2 x RX360
    EK pump heat sink
    EK UNI holder DDC V2
    Custom color Cable (extension)
    Coolant, Pastel Yellow
     
  2. Mr. Fox

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    No, probably not unless I had an extra $1,500 to $2,000 cash to spend on some basic but critical upgrades to have something fantastic (X99 mobo, 6 or 8 core HT CPU, RAM and 1K or larger PSU). Looks like it has some good components, but a really pathetic CPU. Your 3940XM will tear that CPU to shreds. The other down side is it has been shackled that in-between Haswell turd that's not as potent as the older X79 or the newer X99.

    It's a shame it has such a wimpy CPU. It really needs at bare minimum a 4C/8T Devil's Canyon i7 K CPU to be worth considering. Especially for somebody named ht_addict. ;) That CPU ain't got no HT.

    It seems like someone was trying to built something amazing and ran out of money, so he made some fatal mistakes in terms of cutting corners on the CPU and PSU. Those specs seem inconsistent with everything else.
     
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    In terms of specifications I would, but it also depends on whether you need the mobility offered by your laptop.

    However, if they're actually trading a fairly new and fully watercooled system with two 980s for an R2 with 7970M Crossfire, I'd seriously question 'why'. Is there something up with the desktop that's making them want to get rid of it? I would make sure that the desktop is in perfect working order before you consider a trade, particularly as it has a custom liquid loop.

    How is that CPU pathetic? I haven't seen a single game that makes use of hyperthreading, the only reason I went for an i7 in my new build was because I have the odd thing that does, and when it comes to the potential overclocks out of 4690k and 4790k chips, both seem to be able to reach the same sorts of frequencies and voltages. That 4690k will easily exceed 4.6GHz with sufficient cooling, unless you're extremely unlucky with a terrible chip (very unlikely). As far as gaming is concerned there is zero reason to get an i7 over an equivalent i5, and I haven't yet seen a single game that will make good use of X99 unless you're talking 3-4 GPU setups.

    The PSU could be criticised for not being fully modular and only being an 80+ bronze rated unit, but in terms of wattage, 750 is more than enough to cover the entire system, even if the CPU and GPUs are pushed to the limit.

    If I were to criticise anything, it'd be the storage configuration, something that's easily fixed.
     
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    Your laptop for that desktop? I wouldn't. I'd just upgrade the m18x to dual 980Ms.

    I got rid of my desktop for my laptop (the clevo in my sig).

    My desktop had an i7 quad-core @ 4ghz, 16gb ram, 2x samsung 840 ssds raid0, 2 x 1tb hdds, nVidia GeForce Titan, corsair 800D case, corsair ax1200 psu, lamptron fan controller, a custom liquid cooling loop with a 360mm radiator for the cpu.

    If I would get rid of my m18x for a desktop, It'd better have a 5960x, 32gb ddr4 2800+ ram, 2 x gtx 980s minimum.

    Luckily my clevo will serve as my desktop replacement hooked up to my corsair k95 rgb keyboard, my razer mamba mouse and monitor/sound system. So really all I lost was my tower full of components. I'll be keeping my m18x still as it might be the last epic system made by Alienware at this rate. :thumbsup:

    I'd keep the m18x , but that's just me. :D
     
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    Not enough cores, and no hyper-threading to make it even more unattractive... the 3940XM in his laptop will kick it's rear end and leave it to bleed out in a gutter.

    You're speaking from the perspective of a gamer that is content to live with adequate, not the views of an extreme performance enthusiast. It's not awesome, I I view it as pathetic. Nothing wrong with either one... depends on what floats your boat. I'm simply answering your question about why I find it to be pathetic and respect your right to have a different definition of what awesome means.

    If it had a decent 6 or 8 core CPU and that dual GPU setup, with both heavily overclocked, 750W is not going to be good enough. Here again, with a barely adequate i5 it might be good enough for some, it would be OK for playing games. Yes, storage is easy to fix. That's why I don't bother mentioning that. It's irrelevant when you can drop in a 2TB HDD for under $100 USD.

    Plus, look at the forum name of the person asking, LOL. If he truly is a self-proclaimed ht_addict, that CPU absolutely ain't gonna cut it.
     
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    I have to agree with Mr. Fox, that i5 isn't bad but it's not worth it over the 3940XM.

    Also the desktop will have no portability. The m18x r2 is extremely portable while packing a nice amount of performance, especially with 980M sli.

    We'll probably have a 980MX or 985M with full 2048 shaders next year anyways.
     
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    I'm not speaking from the perspective of a gamer content with 'adequate'. Such a gamer doesn't need an overclocked 980 to play games at 1080p.

    I am not questioning your right to having an opinion - and I certainly respect yours, after all, I went with a 4790k myself - but I'm questioning whether more than 4 cores makes any significant difference to gaming, even on a two-card setup. Every benchmark I've ever seen suggests that there's maybe a few frames here and there, and that's it. And that's comparing more cores, never mind hyperthreading, for which I have not seen a single case of any significant difference.

    Even assuming each of those GPUs pulls 200W heavily overclocked, and the CPU pulls a further 150W, that's 550W...and the rest of the things in the system aren't going to consume another 200W. 750W is easily enough to power the system. It'd certainly be ideal to have an 850-1000W supply to keep the power draw in the most efficient parts of the power-efficiency curve (peaking around 50%) but that system isn't going to be wanting for power.

    (Note that I'm not saying that the OP should go for the trade: I'd recommend against it, because I'd prefer having my own hand-built system personally, particularly when you're looking at a custom loop)
     
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    Some people care about more than just playing games. That i5 might play games fine, as will most of the "high end" AMD CPUs that are equally pathetic, but it's a really lame option if you're into number chasing. If all I wanted to do was play games I would spend $600 on a new Alpha.
     
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    Guys thanks for the different points of view. I will take both into consideration. Only reason I'm thinking of trading, was I put my unit up for sale and I got the offer. The other seller story is he is going away on business for a few months and need something powerful enough to take with(I'm #1 on Catzilla at 576p bench for AMD based cards:hi2: ). I love my laptop, has warranty till 2016 and runs everything that is thrown at it with ease. I really wish AMD would come out with a mobile solution as the 980M are $1k each, since there's no competition. For that type of $$$ I could replace the MB inside the desktop with the latest and greatest. Decisions, decisions.
     
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    I really want to see what the new AMD mobile GPUs will be like next year. They can't refresh their lineup anymore, the performance needs to be improved as well.

    I'm hoping for AMD's R9 M390X to beat 980M easily and maybe i'll grab two of those for my clevo. :D
     
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