Worth making the jump from a full 1070 to full 2070?

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  1. Casowen

    Casowen Notebook Consultant

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    I am thankful for having a gtx1070 with a 7700hq in a mech-15, who's cooling system is amazing as my temperatures never go past 79, unless its a hot room. In getting this, the GPU scores quite well for just about every test hitting about 3300 on superposition extreme with no overclock. In userbenchmark, my scores are about what you see in the listed peak overclock bench, which curiously is about on par, or better then a 2080 max-q, though obviously RTX is the multirender winner. My CPU has a similar story thanks to throttle stop, and my secret sauce(Liquid metal repaste).

    I am going off the conclusion that a 2080mq is on par with a full 2070 given that the die of the 2080mq is the same as the desktop variant, and hence more advanced, while the 2060/2070 both use a smaller die that is less advanced, despite the 2070 being 115 watts, while the 2080mq is 90 watts.

    Current one im eyeing is the PB51EF-G. Assuming the 2070 and 2060 are the same, minus power draw, I assume I could get the 2060 version(PB51ED1-G) and just flash it?
     
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    yrekabakery Notebook Virtuoso

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    Flashing a 2070 vBIOS onto a 2060 will result in a brick. Also there's not much performance increase to be had from a 2070, only 10% over a 1070 at 1080p.
     
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    where are you getting that number at?
     
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    The answer is no. You should just sit pat and wait for the 3000 series.
     
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    Casowen Notebook Consultant

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    You and I pretty much have the same spec laptop.
     
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    Good. You should intimately understand what I say next. I have two points really.

    1. Even on the desktop side, the full 2070 was only 25% faster than the full 1070. In laptops, with the 2070 being so severely power constrained, the leap is even less than that.

    2. Our GTX 1070s are still doing well at murdering 1080p, right? The new laptops are still packing the same 1080p/120/144hz screens, so we wouldn't even notice a difference really.

    Unless you are having issues with you laptop or just really, really want a brand new machine, it just isn't worth spending over $2,000 USD for a laptop that comes with a GPU that's ~15% faster than what you currently have.

    The alternative option is to wait until next year for the RTX 3000 series, which is a 7nm die shrink, meaning there should be a massive performance increase with much better power consumption. Your money will go much further and in the end it will feel like you gained a substantial, tangible upgrade over the GTX 1070. As a further bonus, there will be far more games with RTX features at that time.
     
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    Well thank you for confirming what I had felt what was basically the truth of this. There is also ddr5 that is supposed to be out next year as well. Ray tracing as it stands is hardly impressive, and the best example I have seen with it was where gamers nexus did a programming example of it, but thats it. The things that do look good with it tank to around 10fps, and thats in a simple environment. Unless the 7mn leap is that much of a leap, I dont have much of an outlook for RT, and I know publishers complain how difficult it is to implement.
     
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    I'm curious what the practical benefits of the RTX 3000 series would be though. 1440p screens? Is that really necessary on a 15-17" monitor?
     
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    144hz ultra....not like you can get 144fps on ultra with a 1080ti nvm a 1070...
     
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