Windows7/8 - Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry

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  1. Riley Martin

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    UpdatePack7R2-18.4.15. No issues with this latest installation here. Unfortunately (both win7 OS) there is a performance hit when enabling meltdown protection. Negligible on an i7-6700 4.0ghz (w/ a 1TB Samsung 850Pro +HDD hybrid, 32GB RAM), but noticeable on an i7-4700 2.4ghz (w/ 2 Sandisk SDSSDXP-480G's, 16GB RAM). No benchmarks atm, but I'll post if interested. Curious what others have noticed. Using InSpectre tool I've disabled Meltdown protection for the Haswell (which needed Intel microdata using the uCode workaround), the Skylake Gigabyte MB has an updated BIOS.

    Friends of mine with inferior processors using Win10 report no performance penalties. Is MS using this historic hardware/processor exploit to force feed hold-outs their win10? Machines that legit can run win7 are taking performance hits. Hopefully the patch complexities are the reason MS has yet to offer more efficient win7/8 Meltdown/Spectre OS updates -not apathy to their non win10 users? ;)
     
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    Are your friends as tech-savvy as you are (and running the same tests to compare)?
     
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    Off topic, since I don;t know where to post this, and people here are security savvy...What's the best video downloader for DailyMotion? One of the Firefox Plugins wants access to an awful lot, including Rumplestiltskin's middle name. (It's Walter)
     
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    Thanks man. Good point! I thought I alluded to using only the InSpectre results, i.e., "Performance: Good/Slower" result.

    So yeah, we're not comparing GPU/CPU/APU numbers. I literally have to beg 90% of friends/family/colleagues to install and run InSpectre -then follow up with questions, "are you noticing slower performance?", "what does the InSpectre tool say"?. There's tons of good data points online comparing and contrasting real benchmark numbers -but out of the 20+/- Intel and win10 users I've asked, seems Ivy Bridge or better users are pretty cool w/ MS patches.

    You def. make a good point. It got me thinking... seems that as long as 80-90% of computer users machines boot, and they can surf the web, play games, look at social media, check email, and blindly provide metadata aggregators with heaping pounds/kilos of personal data, they're cool. 100% of people taking the time to post and read forums like NBR, not so much :)
     
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    Thanks for this!
     
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    Another Simplix Patch, updatepatch-18.5.10 today...
    https://blog.simplix.info/update7/

    History of changes
    18.5.10

    Added KB4095874-x86-x64
    Added KB4103718-x86-x64 with disabling telemetry and processor checking (replaces KB4093118-x86-x64)
    The following updates are not updated and updated: KB3108381-x86-x64
    Added skipping of updates from KB3125574-v4-x86-x64 if it is already installed.
    On the working system UpdatePack7R2 is installed only if the processor supports SSE2.

    Content

    The following updates are included in the suite:
    Update Version Bit depth Windows 7 Server 2008 R2
    KB917607 x86 x64 + +
    KB977236 x64 - +
    KB977238 x64 - +
    KB977239 x64 - +
    KB981111 x64 - +
    KB981390 x64 - +
    KB981391 x64 - +
    KB981392 x64 - +
    KB982018 v3 x86 x64 + +
    KB2386667 x64 - +
    KB2479943 x86 x64 + +
    KB2491683 x86 x64 + +
    KB2506014 x64 + +
    KB2506212 x86 x64 + +
    KB2506928 v2 x86 x64 + +
    KB2509553 x86 x64 + +
    KB2518295 x64 - +
    KB2524478 v2 x64 - +
    KB2525835 x64 - +
    KB2533552 x86 x64 + +
    KB2534111 x86 x64 + +
    KB2545698 x86 x64 + +
    KB2546250 x64 - +
    KB2547666 x86 x64 + +
    KB2552343 x86 x64 + +
    KB2560656 x86 x64 + +
    KB2563227 x86 x64 + +
    KB2564958 x86 x64 + +
    KB2571621 x64 - +
    KB2574819 v2 x86 x64 + +
    KB2579686 x86 x64 + -
    KB2592687 x86 x64 + +
    KB2598845 x86 x64 + +
    KB2603229 x64 + +
    KB2604115 x86 x64 + +
    KB2607047 x64 - +
    KB2608658 x64 - +
    KB2608659 x64 - +
    KB2620704 x86 x64 + +
    KB2621440 x86 x64 + +
    KB2631813 x86 x64 + -
    KB2640148 v2 x86 x64 + +
    KB2643719 x64 - +
    KB2647753 v4 x64 + +
    KB2654428 x86 x64 + +
    KB2660075 x86 x64 + +
    KB2667402 v2 x86 x64 + +
    KB2670838 x86 x64 + +
    KB2685811 x86 x64 + +
    KB2685813 x86 x64 + +
    KB2690533 x86 x64 + +
    KB2698365 x86 x64 + +
    KB2703157 x86 + -
    KB2705219 v2 x86 x64 + +
    KB2716513 x86 x64 + +
    KB2719033 x86 x64 + +
    KB2719857 x86 x64 + +
    KB2726399 v3 x64 - +
    KB2726535 x86 x64 + +
    KB2727528 x86 x64 + +
    KB2729094 v2 x86 x64 + +
    KB2732059 v5 x86 x64 + +
    KB2732487 v2 x86 x64 + -
    KB2736422 x86 x64 + +
    KB2742599 x86 x64 + +
    KB2750841 x86 x64 + +
    KB2761217 x86 x64 + +
    KB2763523 x86 x64 + +
    KB2765809 x64 - +
    KB2770660 x86 x64 + +
    KB2773072 x86 x64 + -
    KB2786081 x86 x64 + +
    KB2790978 x64 - +
    KB2791765 x64 + +
    KB2799926 x86 x64 + +
    KB2800095 v2 x86 x64 + +
    KB2806748 x64 - +
    KB2807986 x86 x64 + +
    KB2808679 x86 x64 + +
    KB2813347 x86 x64 + +
    KB2813430 x86 x64 + +
    KB2818604 x86 x64 + +
    KB2820331 x86 + -
    KB2823180 x86 x64 + +
    KB2830477 x86 x64 + +
    KB2834140 v2 x86 x64 + +
    KB2835174 x86 x64 + +
    KB2840631 x86 x64 + +
    KB2843630 v3 x86 x64 + +
    KB2847927 x86 x64 + +
    KB2852386 x86 x64 + -
    KB2852386 v2 x64 - +
    KB2853587 x86 x64 + +
    KB2853952 x86 x64 + +
    KB2857650 x86 x64 + +
    KB2861698 x86 x64 + +
    KB2862152 x86 + -
    KB2862330 v2 x86 x64 + +
    KB2862335 x86 x64 + +
    KB2864202 x86 x64 + +
    KB2868038 x86 x64 + +
    KB2868846 x64 - +
    KB2871997 v2 x86 x64 + +
    KB2882822 x86 x64 + +
    KB2884256 x86 x64 + +
    KB2891804 x86 x64 + +
    KB2892074 x86 x64 + +
    KB2893294 x86 x64 + +
    KB2893519 x86 x64 + +
    KB2894844 x86 x64 + +
    KB2900986 x86 x64 + +
    KB2908783 x86 x64 + +
    KB2911501 x86 x64 + +
    KB2912390 x86 x64 + +
    KB2918077 x86 x64 + -
    KB2919469 x86 x64 + +
    KB2923545 x86 x64 + +
    KB2931356 x86 x64 + +
    KB2934950 x64 - +
    KB2934953 x64 - +
    KB2937610 x86 x64 + +
    KB2943357 x86 x64 + +
    KB2966583 x86 x64 + +
    KB2968294 x86 x64 + +
    KB2970228 x86 x64 + +
    KB2972100 x86 x64 + +
    KB2972211 x86 x64 + +
    KB2973201 x86 x64 + +
    KB2977292 x86 x64 + +
    KB2978120 x86 x64 + +
    KB2978742 x86 x64 + -
    KB2984972 x86 x64 + +
    KB2985461 x86 x64 + +
    KB2991963 x86 x64 + +
    KB2992611 x86 x64 + +
    KB3000483 x86 x64 + +
    KB3003743 x86 x64 + +
    KB3004375 v3 x86 x64 + +
    KB3006121 x86 x64 + +
    KB3006137 x86 x64 + +
    KB3010788 x86 x64 + +
    KB3011780 x86 x64 + +
    KB3013531 v2 x86 x64 + +
    KB3020370 x86 x64 + +
    KB3020388 x86 x64 + +
    KB3020393 x86 x64 + +
    KB3021674 x86 x64 + +
    KB3022777 x86 + -
    KB3023215 x86 x64 + +
    KB3030377 x86 x64 + +
    KB3035126 x86 x64 + +
    KB3037574 x86 x64 + +
    KB3042058 x86 x64 + +
    KB3045685 x86 x64 + +
    KB3046017 x86 x64 + +
    KB3046269 x86 x64 + +
    KB3046339 x64 - +
    KB3054205 x64 - +
    KB3054476 x86 x64 + +
    KB3055642 x86 x64 + +
    KB3059317 x86 x64 + +
    KB3060716 x86 x64 + +
    KB3061518 x86 + -
    KB3064209 x86 x64 + +
    KB3067903 x86 x64 + +
    KB3068457 x64 - +
    KB3071756 x86 x64 + +
    KB3072305 x86 x64 + +
    KB3074543 x86 x64 + +
    KB3075226 x86 x64 + +
    KB3078601 x86 x64 + +
    KB3078667 x86 x64 + +
    KB3084135 x86 + -
    KB3086255 x86 x64 + +
    KB3093513 x86 x64 + -
    KB3097989 x86 x64 + +
    KB3102429 v2 x86 x64 + +
    KB3107998 x86 x64 + +
    KB3108371 x86 x64 + +
    KB3108604 x64 - +
    KB3108664 x86 x64 + +
    KB3109103 x86 x64 + +
    KB3109560 x86 x64 + +
    KB3110329 x86 x64 + +
    KB3124275 IE8 x86 x64 + +
    KB3124275 IE9 x86 x64 + +
    KB3124275 IE10 x86 x64 + +
    KB3126587 x86 x64 + -
    KB3127220 x86 x64 + +
    KB3133043 x64 - +
    KB3137061 x86 x64 + +
    KB3138378 x86 x64 + +
    KB3138612 x86 x64 + +
    KB3138910 x86 x64 + +
    KB3139398 x86 x64 + +
    KB3139914 x86 x64 + +
    KB3140245 x86 x64 + +
    KB3147071 x86 x64 + +
    KB3150220 x86 x64 + -
    KB3156016 x86 x64 + +
    KB3156019 x86 x64 + +
    KB3159398 x86 x64 + +
    KB3161102 x86 x64 + -
    KB3161949 x86 x64 + +
    KB3169658 x64 - +
    KB3177467 x86 x64 + +
    KB3179573 x86 x64 + +
    KB3184143 x86 x64 + -
    KB4019990 x86 x64 + +
    KB4040966 x86 x64 + +
    KB4040980 x86 x64 + +
    KB4054998 x86 x64 + +
    KB4095874 x86 x64 + +
    KB4103718 x86 x64 + +
    Update Version Bit depth Windows 7 Server 2008 R2

    In addition, the following updates have been added:

    Internet Explorer 11 ( KB2841134 )
    Tweak Registry instead of MRT ( KB890830 )

    The following updates are undesirable and excluded:

    KB971033- x86-x64 (Update for Windows Validation Technologies)
    KB2952664- x86-x64 (System Compatibility Update for upgrading to Windows 10)
    KB2977759- x86-x64 (Diagnostics of compatibility issues for switching to Windows 10)
    KB3021917- x86-x64 (System Diagnostics and Telemetry for the transition to Windows 10)
    KB3035583- x86-x64 (Update installs the "Get Windows 10" application)
    KB3068708- x86-x64 (Update for quality improvement and telemetry diagnostics)
    KB3075249- x86-x64 (Update adds telemetry points to the file consent.exe)
    KB3080149- x86-x64 (Update for CEIP program and telemetry diagnostics)
    KB3081954- x86-x64 (Update to improve working folders and telemetry)
    KB3123862- x86-x64 (Updated features for upgrading to Windows 10)
    KB3139923- x86-x64 (Update adds telemetry points to the file consent.exe)
    KB3150513- x86-x64 (Updated Configurations for Compatibility Diagnostics)
    KB3161608- x86-x64 (Update adds telemetry points to the file consent.exe)
    KB3163589- x86-x64 (The message about work under the control of the out-of-date Windows version)
    KB3172605- x86-x64 (Update adds telemetry points to the file consent.exe)
    KB3173040- x86-x64 (Update expiration notice for Windows 10)
     
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    The part there that I bolded and increased the font size on, can you possibly point me to where steps to accomplish that can be found? I've just started using a near-mint ThinkPad W541 with an i7-4810mq in it and using InSpectre I see this:

    [​IMG]

    I've spent time trying to figure out which patches need to be installed (given I'm doing my best to avoid anything potentially related to the telemetry and other BS with Windows 7 which is my OS of choice, but I don't seem to be having much luck. The W541 is running the latest BIOS from Lenovo (2.35), I'm just about to do a clean install of Windows 7 Pro using the latest simplix update pack (from May 10th) as I just finished making the ISO but I would like to get the Meltdown and Spectre patching issues resolved before I do this all over again and still not be able to get them taken care of.

    Thanks for any info or direction...
     
  10. Riley Martin

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    Hey now. When was that BIOS 2.35 released? Probably prior to Spectre/Meltdown? Same thing with mine (no Manufacturer BIOS updates on one of my machines)... so the "workaround" (keep in mind, the uCode workaround isn't a true fix -b/c microcode doesn't run at BIOS/Low-Level). BUT, it helps w/ some performance & cooling issues, and I'll take the half-ass security fix as well. :)

    Check the link here (it's an interesting read cover to cover),
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/ucode-fix-for-spectre-ht-bug-fix-and-meltdown.806451/

    Peace!
     
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