Windows7/8 - Updates to hide to prevent Windows 10 Upgrade / Disable Telemetry

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  1. Riley Martin

    Riley Martin Notebook Geek

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    Any Linux distro suggestions? I'm inclined to go with Mint or Ubuntu, but would love feedback (esp. from those who have followed a thread like this).
    I've had it w/ MS. Spectre & Meltdown transcend ones OS, but I'm spent on Micro$lop.

    The time spent figuring-out Linux will be time well-spent in the long, you know? 2020 isn't too distant... might as well hone the Linux chops now.
    (Hopefully not too off-topic -but I'm throwing-in the MS towel) Thanks. Peace

    *Just today, KB2952664 for the 21st time ;)
     
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  2. Vasudev

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    linux Mint or ubuntu/xubuntu 16 should be fine.
     
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    Mr. Fox Undefiled BGA-Hating Elitist

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    I really like Linux Mint with Cinnamon desktop. It looks excellent and almost everything just works without any hassles. GeFarts drivers for Linux are sucky, but everything else was plug and play with the P870DM3 and Tornado F5/16L-G-1080,
     
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    The following thread has been pretty interesting as of late. If you don't know RU language, some info. is likely lost in translation -but using a Translator & generally speaking... seems the hit to performance people are reporting is pretty steep (post BIOS update(s) & w/ the newest SimplixBeta pack). http://forum.oszone.net/thread-257198-645.html
     
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    Riley Martin Notebook Geek

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    I installed the Beta on 2 machines. Skylake 6700K 4.0ghz, and a i-7 4600MQ. I thought the Skylake wouldn’t take a hit, but it did. Meltdown culprit. I’ll run benchmarks tmrrw using inspectre and disabling both, then enabling. Too tired to do it now. But I wonder if even a Kabylake top-tier will still Take a hit. MicroSha$t sucks. Is this their/MS’s way to force us to Win 10?

    The Beta install updatpack7R2-2.18.18worked w/o problems. I think the Ozone reported issues, BSOD, were due to AV registry & missing drivers. Lots of Ozone benchmarks were on even older machines. I’ll post benchmarks manana if anyone’s interested. In the meantime I can only hope MS takes the high road in March and delivers quality patches. Try the beta... its cool if your Av is set. Use inspectre before to double check ofc. F’ng MS. I just am too tired to mess w/ this crap -and sure, my processors arent the latest/greatest, but they were solid before spectre/meltdown BS. Peace y’all. Good luck.

    *Is there a website with user reported Win7 and Linux benchmarks post fix? Id love to find a good link to compare & contrast my results. Peace. Thanks! Again, Im blowing up this thread. Sorry about that. This sh*t interests me though... and I like to run a tight/clean machine(s).
     
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    On linux, upwards of kernel 4.13.36 are compiled with retpoline option which didn't slowdown my 4 yr PC at all, On win 10 its painfully slow, so I disabled spectre protection on w10 using Inspectre just to get back the perf.
     
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    Don't want to go too off topics, but what are the best Ant-Telemetry, Privacy protection programs for Windows 7 and 8.1? O&O ShutUp 10 seems a favorite, but it's only for 10.
     
  8. hmscott

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    The complaining about new updates is continuing there.

    There's some kind of recognition by MS of the problem now, perhaps it will get resolved?

    Microsoft stops pushing buggy Win7 patch KB 4088875, hopefully as a precursor to yanking it
    Microsoft no longer installs the Windows 7 March Monthly Rollup automatically, but KB 4088875 is still available in the Update Catalog. Aren’t you glad you held off on patching this month?
    https://www.computerworld.com/artic...5-hopefully-as-a-precursor-to-yanking-it.html

    "Pity the cannon fodder.

    Folks who had Windows Automatic Update turned on and installed Patch Tuesday’s Monthly Rollup for Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2, KB 4088875, have encountered a viper’s pit of problems.

    Based on reports from all over the globe, it looks like Microsoft is no longer pushing the buggy patch out the Windows Automatic Update chute — but the patch is still there if you go looking for it. Just don't go looking to Microsoft for explanations.

    Right out of the gate we were warned that KB 4088875 had problems. The KB article lists these:
    • After installing this update, SMB servers may leak memory.
    • A Stop error occurs if this update is applied to a 32-Bit (x86) machine with the Physical Address Extension (PAE) mode disabled.
    • A Stop error occurs on machines that don't support Streaming Single Instructions Multiple Data (SIMD) Extensions 2 (SSE2).
    (“Stop error” is Microsoft speak for a bluescreen.)

    Microsoft basically says it doesn’t have fixes for any of those problems —but it pushed the update out the Automatic Update chute anyway.

    Shortly after the patch appeared, we started hearing from admins that both the pushed Monthly Rollup and the download-and-manually-install Security-only patch, KB 4088878, were causing problems with IP addresses on servers’ virtual Network Interface Cards (vNICs). After applying the update, the server — and sometimes individual machines — simply dropped off the network because their manual IP addresses had been altered.

    Since then, there’s been an avalanche of complaints.

    2 scenarios where the bug is causing problems

    Susan Bradley has identified two specific scenarios where the bug kicks in:

    Scenario 1 — VMware. As noted on a reddit post, a new virtual Ethernet network card is installed/enabled after the update. The side effect has occurred before with other convenience rollups, and a workaround was previously posted to this KB and a script is provided to fix the issue. It is not impacting all servers; it appears to be impacting virtual machines on VMware.

    Scenario 2 — workstations. This one is a bit more fuzzy and not clear cut. I’ve seen reports where workstations with static IPs may be impacted with this update. There are definitely enough credible reports of chipsets being reset and losing their networking IP addresses. Note that I’m seeing this more in businesses than in consumer/peer-to-peer settings.

    A sign that Microsoft will pull the buggy patch?

    Microsoft hasn’t acknowledged the bug or pulled the bad patches, but they have taken a step that we’ve seen a few times before. When you run Windows Update on Win7, the KB 4088875 patch appears in the “Important” list — but it isn’t checked. Since it isn’t checked, it won’t be installed automatically.

    In the past, that’s been a precursor to Microsoft completely yanking the patch. At this point, the buggy patches are still available in the Windows Update Catalog, for KB 4088878 (still dated March 12) and KB 4088875(now dated March 14).

    If you’ve applied the update and your machine isn’t connecting any more, try uninstalling KB 4088875 or KB 4088878. If you want to continue with the patch installed, there’s a useful 7-year-old article on TechNet from Dan Stolts, "How to Find a Lost, Missing, Hidden or Removed Network Card (NIC) or Other Device and Even Remove it," that may help you get your NIC back.

    I find it infuriating that Microsoft has stopped pushing the patch — they obviously know there's a problem — but as of Thursday morning, the company hasn’t acknowledged the bug. We really need more transparency from the Patching Monolith.

    Will Microsoft fess up and fix things? Ha! Join us on the AskWoody Lounge."
     
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    No one has a suggestion for an O&O equivalent privacy/anti telemetry program for 7 and 8.1?
     
  10. toughasnails

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    From page 1, first post. This should work just fine.
     
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