Why I went back for Mac and why

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  1. Dida86

    Dida86 Notebook Enthusiast

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    after stressing myself out for a while I finally concluded to go back to Mac, nobody asked for this thread and opinion, but maybe some of you like to have some guidance in choosing the best device for yourself.

    What did I go for? A Macbook pro 13 from 2016, 512 GB storage, 16GB RAM, no touch bar! :D

    For real power I got a desktop with a 8700k, 32GB RAM, GTX 1080ti :)

    So, I sold my (still beloved) Macbook Pro Retina from 2013, I only had 8GB of RAM, I am using Virtual Machines a lot, so I went for a hunt last year, checking out the following devices:
    - Alienware 15R3, GTX 1070, 7700HQ a.s.o - It ran hot, display was ok, but the tripod design on it caused it to have an uneven contact to the CPU die which I couldn't fix by any manners, I got rid of it
    - Dell XPS 15 9560 4k - nice machine but the keyboard was mushy, trackpad was misaligned, bad speakers, coil whine

    I took my decisions then and went for a MBP 15, 16GB RAM, 512GB Storage, Touchbar, for 3.300€ which is a lot of money. I used it for one year and noticed that I hated to use the touchbar, and for me especially, using vim a lot, the Escape key is crucial, mapping it to the Shift lock key didn't help a lot there, still hitting ESC on that damn touchbar, also during simple typing, I hit it, heard the "fault" noise a lot :D
    The top of the nightmare started when I noticed that my screen is getting stains from the Keyboard, some of them even made scratches. And I used a cloth EACH time I used it, washed my hands before any usage, even dried them specially....

    I thought for myself: Enough is enough, sell the damn thing, you are starting to hate the "features" of it way too much.

    Did that, tried an Alienware again, 15R4, same issue, hotter processor, went back. Alienware 13R3 - very nice machine, but came with a nick on the bottom, out of the production plant...went back.

    After much of reading and thinking I went for an XPS 13 9370, same specs as the MBP 15 before (of course with a i7 8550u, no 45W CPU. Loved it until I started to notice the flimsy USB-C Ports, even the charging cable falls out...the screen has very nice still images but has a big load of ghosting and scaling that screen in Linux is a nightmare (I need and want something Unix/Linuxish natively running) even with fractional scaling in Gnome, KDE scales nicer, but this was showing horizontal strange lines when typing in any text editor when scaled properly for that screen. Aaaand the ghosting :D

    Bought a GS65, very nice, fast machine, a bit loud, but the casing was so terribly miserable, creaking even when just staring at it, trackpad was fine, keyboard too, I liked the screen, no bleed, no ghosting etc.

    But if you are spending so much money, or at least me spending so much money: I want to feel it. I want to feel it in every detail. Yes Apple has keyboard issues, yes I hate the damn touchbar. I thought about buying a 2015 15 Model, but the price and the rather old CPU wasn't anything for me actually, not in 2018 (ok, the recent Macs are not on spec too now, but hey, that CPU is at least 3 years old)

    Where were my choices? I want quality, something that works, something that can scale it's screen perfectly, something that has a good feel to is and that is stury, not creaking, software and gui wise - yeah I use Windows 10 on my Desktop, mostly for gaming or running linux for my VMs - scaling is easy, 27 inch @4k - double resolution - fine. But on notebooks things are not the same, and this is were Apple starts to shine:
    Software which is working. Software that is working perfectly with the hardware. No issues, just start it up, put it to sleep, actually never reboot, because you don't need it.

    I thought for myself - the cheapest model, not for it's price, but for it's simplicity, without the touch bar, is perfect. It's just a fine machine to use, nothing more, nothing less.

    Ok, doing some VMs might take a bit longer, fine, but hey, I spend less time in finding THE device :D

    I am not a fanboy, believe me, but for me it's the best device.
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  2. darkloki

    darkloki Notebook Deity

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    The best setup is a Macbook Pro and a gaming desktop. Gaming laptops are simply not reliable, and for the most part the average person isn't nearly as mobile as he/she thinks they are where a desktop would suffice. In fact some desktops (Gaming Desktops) have gotten so small that they themselves are nearly as portable as a 17 inch gaming laptop. For instance the Corsair One.

    I've owned nearly 6 gaming laptops and have finally come to Mac and I couldn't be happier with the decision of going to that combo. I have yet to touch a notebook anywhere close to as reliable as my macbook pro, the additional features the macbook provides like sync with imessages and even phone calls make the macbook even better as a portable machine to use in bed or on the go.
  3. kojack

    kojack Notebook Virtuoso

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    Agreed, Gaming laptops are MEH. They are ugly for the most part, super heavy, always have heat issues and the list goes on. I would never want to game on a laptop. It's bad enough using a 24" screen on a desktop. I prefer to do other things on my notebook, and game using xbox and PS. As for the macbook, I cannot get with the macbook in any way in it's current form. They NEED to move towards the future and produce a 2 in 1 with touch and pencil support. I find myself constantly finger punching my macbook screen and nothing happening. It's crappy. Only then, will I move to a macbook. My dell computers are much more functional for what I do. I can edit videos and photos much faster on my dell with touch, I use touch SO MUCH that I cannot even use a windows computer without it now. It's infuriating.
  4. z31fanatic

    z31fanatic Notebook Consultant

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    Switched to a Macbook Pro in 2015 and never went back. I tried a few PC laptops (mostly Dell XPS and Latitudes) but nothing compares to a Macbook for everyday computing.
  5. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    If you want a portable computer that works Macbook pro is the one. For me, I personally dislike Macs because of limited connectivity ports and less upgradeable parts.
    Thinking of getting an old MBP 15 for my sis since her Lenovo which is barely used is sort of broken.
  6. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Water Cooling the Macbook 2015 - Increased performance or dead Macbook!?
    Linus Tech Tips
    Published on Jun 9, 2015
    I'll admit - this is NOT an advised way of cooling your Macbook 2015, and you should NOT try it at home... But does it provide a tangible performance benefit?
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  7. TheReciever

    TheReciever D! For Dragon!

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    Gaming laptop is more an aesthetic calling than performance guarantee / threshold.

    A mobile workstation is practically capable of nearly everything a "gaming laptop" advertises.

    A precision with a 980m installed doesnt just become a gaming laptop, but a laptop that can play games while retaining the build quality of its class.

    Im not advocating this as a general rule, but an exception to what seems to be the consensus building up in the thread.

    That said OP as long as you're happy with your machine then more power to ya!

    I'd like to get a 2012 (?) macbook just to play with and familiarize around Apple but may never happen lol, life works in odd ways.
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  8. ssj92

    ssj92 Neutron Star

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    You guys must have bad luck with these gaming laptops. Every gaming laptop I have owned has been solid for the most part.

    Then again I've owned Alienware M15x/M14x/M17xR3/M18x/M18xR2/13 R3/17 R1 and Clevo P570WM/P870DM/P870DM3. Only big heavy ones, not really any small light ones except the 13 R3.

    I actually have a Macbook Pro right now too LOL. Late 2013 2.3Ghz i7, 16GB, 512GB SSD, nVidia Geforce GT 750M along with my M18xR2. Kinda given up on new stuff for now.

    Macbook is pretty solid but I still prefer using my M18x. There's two apps only for mac I use, so I keep it around.
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  9. Terreos

    Terreos Notebook Deity

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    I've tried twice to get into having a mac as my laptop and leave my gaming on my consoles and desktop PC. But, for me I've had the opposite experience than you guys. I've had some great experiences with gaming laptops that anything less is beneath me. And they keep getting better. They're nearly as thin as macbooks these days and are alot more powerful. Mac still wins with build quality and their trackpads are the best you can get. But, I think the biggest barrier for me is the OS. I've been a windows user for my entire life. So over 25 years of being a Windows user. I'm definitely stubborn and just don't want to learn it. lol

    If I was a content creator and made youtube videos I'd probably give Mac a serious look and try to learn Final Cut Pro.
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  10. Raidriar

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    I wish I could say the same, but after the debacle I had with the 2011 15" MBP, Apple has scorned me for life as far as computers go.

    However, iPhone continues to be my mobile of choice as they happen to be the most powerful and secure phones on the market. There's a reason why iPhone brings in 73% of Apple's revenue (not sure if this figure remains accurate, this was circa 2015). From what I gather, Apple continues to push away its mac consumer base with horrible design choices.

    Dell hands down has the best PC warranty. I paid 200$ for an extended warranty, my GPU failed, and they replaced with with a brand new computer 1 model year newer. Meanwhile, under Apple's recall program, I was disqualified from the free repair because my MBP had a dent in the case near the power jack. That kind of crap I find completely unforgivable.
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