Why does sager use the slower gtx 1070 max Q in the p950ER

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  1. ahmad hendeh

    ahmad hendeh Notebook Evangelist

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    No one can doubt that the gs65 is better machine. But you need to pay 500$+ extra for it

    However,According To XMG its not certain that clevo will not use the 90w max q 1070.
     
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    Thanks !

    Waiting for your update to pull the trigger
     
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    Its not even the GS65, but he literally takes people seriously who think MSI is installing bitcoin viruses on their notebooks lol.

    Also yes, that's what I said, you always pay 500USD more for a reason. If you can accept inferior keyboard, screen, drivers, BIOS etc. and are only interested in performance, then clevo is your best bet.

    also sidenote:
    My overclocked (non modified TDP) GTX 1060 is slightly faster than the nerfed maxQ on the clevo and slighly slower than the "good" maxq, make of that what you will.
     
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    I doubt a gtx 1060 OC can beat a max Q 1070

    The "nerfed" version gets 14500 graphics score at 3dmark firestrike and can run witcher 3 at 46 FPS at ultra

    The "good" version gets 15800 at 3dmark fire strike and can run witcher 3 ultra 54 fps

    The normal 1070 gets 17500 in 3dmark fire strike and can run witcher 3 ultra at 60 fps



    An oc 1060 is in the 12K range in 3d mark fire strike(the 1060 will beat the bad 1070 in some games that prefer frequncy like csgo, overwatch. But in genral it will be still slower)

    Note :Temp effect those results
     
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    https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15384583

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1070-Max-Q-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.224732.0.html
    avg: 14926.8

    "good" MaxQs, not the nerfed Clevo one.
     
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    The nerfed p950hr one scores ~14600
    The real 1070 max q is ~16200*

    *those scores are when there is no throttling. however as most 1070 max q laptops throttle the avrage is 14900

    However, how did you achieve that with a LAPTOP 1060 ????
    Whats your laptop ?

    Asus GX501vs*
     
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    It's not that unusual for 1060s to reach good scores. You just need to do proper MSI Afterburner OC, I have a GTX 1060N on a P375SM-A, the scores I had previously on my P157SM with the GTX 1060N were:
    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12520447

    I should probably do an updated firestrike score on my P375SM-A.
    The notebook you saw on the firestrike score was an Alienware 18 R1 with a GTX 1060N.
     
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    I've just received email from Hyperbook about their SL950 VR w/ 1070 Max-Q. Looks like FurMark does not push the GPU all the way in. In Unigine Valley it clocked at 1544 MHz

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    Amazing, thats the 90W version

    Is the hyperkink sl950vr the p950er or the p950hr ?

    * note. Furmark pushes the gpu very hard. Thats why almost all modern gpu downclock once they detect it .
     
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    HR - http://sklep.hyperbook.pl/hyperbook-sl950-vrp950hr-gtx-1070-maxq-p-26317.html

    But still, the max clock should be around 1500 but it was not.

    Mine 1060
    Furmark:
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    Unigine:
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