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Where to buy CLEVO in EUROPE

Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by emish89, Sep 1, 2010.

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  1. emish89

    emish89 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi!
    sorry for my english :)
    I know a lot of CLEVO reseller in europe but I want to know if anyone know the resellers with BEST PRICES .
    I'm interested in 2 models , w870cu and w860cu (maybe w880cu) and I'd like to know where I can find at lower price ;)

    let me know your experence :D
    thanks a lot.
     
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    damascus_steel Notebook Enthusiast

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    emish89 Notebook Enthusiast

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    yeah, I see almost all the reseller are german... kobalt as price too high!
    you know the best quality/price in german?
     
  4. Daniel Hahn

    Daniel Hahn Notebook Evangelist

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    mySN speaks English (they told me they wanna translate their site into English this winter), they have a competend and quick support and provide you with regular bios updates. For example, if you have any hardware issue and know about laptops, they will send you the new component so you can replace it yourself and you just send the broken component back afterwards. This way you don't have to send in the whole laptop which is especially useful if you reside outside of Germany. Should their price be higher than other resellers they will at least tell you why this is - they also have special discounts every month and student prices. However, I won't deny that I'm biased in this regard, I bought all my laptops from them.
     
  5. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    to be honest quickest is not always best especially when it comes to hand built to your spec laptops. if it only takes 5 days i wonder how much testing if any is done on it.

    kobalt are one of the cheapest in the uk but im not sure of comparison when prices are changed into euro.
     
  6. emish89

    emish89 Notebook Enthusiast

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    kobalt w860cu cost from £1,270 Inc VAT = 1 528 euros , the w870 is 1700 euros

    mysn cost about 1300 euros for the same config and 1450

    deviltech costs 1150 and maybe is the best and 1350

    notebookguru costs 1300 and 1500

    you know others?
    thanks
     
  7. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    you can find all the clevo resellers in europeHERE in the clevo guide.
     
  8. pasoleatis

    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    I learn that when comparing different stores it is good too check exactly the same configuration+ service. Some stores give smaller prices for the basic configuration but with significantly lower configuration.
     
  9. emish89

    emish89 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know more than these reseller, I checked about 20 :D
    the prices are for the +/- same config ;)
    someone european know some better reseller? like novatech, one.de ?
    thanks
     
  10. Daniel Hahn

    Daniel Hahn Notebook Evangelist

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    One.de's reputation in Germany is as low as Eurocom's reputation on this forum and probably for better reasons. So I would not recommend them. Apparently in Germany there are only two well known resellers, mySN and Deviltech. But if your just looking for the best price, I'd just buy the barebone and all the components in the US. Thing is you need somebody to bring it over or you need to go there yourself, otherwise customs duty will kill that plan. But you get the laptop at an ridiculously low price.
     
  11. emish89

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    but where to buy?
    including duty taxes price are higher than an alienware :D
     
  12. Daniel Hahn

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    In the US? RJTech, other parts on ebay or wherever its the cheapest. But yeah, problem is customs. It only makes sense if you go their yourself or have a friend bring it over by plane in which case they will most likely not check for the laptop unless you bring all the packaging.

    Otherwise just buy in Europe, apparently the best Clevo resellers in Europe are those in the UK or in Germany. Of those two choices Germany makes more sense, since it's closer and has the Euro. In Germany - like I said - there are only two resellers that seem established, mySN and Deviltech. Of those I would recommend mySN since they've dealt with barebone laptops long before their competitors and therefore have more experience and knowledge about Clevo laptops (it's also the only [German] Clevo reseller that shows up on exhibitions like CeBIT or gamescom), however, that also seems to increase their pricing. Sadly in Europe price matching is not customary...

    In the alternative if you have a lot of time... do some research into Italian business law, maybe they have some icentives for creating small companies, you could set up a company, contact Clevo, buy the laptop with industrial discount, then file for insolvency or just keep it, as it seems like there is no decent Italian Clevo reseller around. ;-)
     
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    I think Cyber-System in Germany also delivers pan-european? Also, Kobalt in England seems to have a decent rep.
     
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    Kobalt Computers (UK) just put on their website Clevo X8100 XFire and the price difference is huge- 500 sterling less than with the nvidia SLI option. Unfortunately it is still more than the what the german resellers offer due to the high exchange rate, but they give an European collect and return warranty- german ones give "bring in" outside germany.
    Overall I am highly disappointed from the level of customer service from most of the resellers- most of them did not return emails with specific configuration questions- cybersystem did return questions only after I placed an actual order, in a phone call mysn suggest me to send everything in an email to which they never responded, deviltech- no response at all...
    only hawkforce have a live chat option, so they were the only ones that answered my questions.
    I would suggest to ask for a price match- although it is not advertised I am sure most of them would consider it.
    Also mysn have some exhibition units that are about 70-90 euros cheaper than brand new, but still carry full warranty.
     
  15. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    Hi Guys, this isn't a "buy from Kobalt" rant - just an explination of the ex rates and config conparisons.

    pasoleatis has a good point:

    If you spec up all the laptops on the different sites listed above then there's quite a big difference in the prices. For example our 860cu starts at £1,270 inc VAT which at the international $1,000,000 ex rate (currently 1.201) does equal €1.525. However if you to purchase anything in a different currency you're not going to get the same ex rate. For example if you pay via bank transfer then today you won't get an ex rate of 2.01 because the bank will take a comission and won't give you the exact rate. This works both ways and is something that you should bear in mind when dealing in any currency transactions. Best thing to do is contact your bank to see what exchange rates they are offering.

    If you spec up the mysn model to the same as our starting spec then the cost is actually €1.462, not €1,300 because you need to upgrade the CPU, WIFI, HDD and add Windows.

    This is just some general advice, of course price is only one factor in choosing a company, varying ex rates just complicate this.
     
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    MySn lists x7200. It costs 700+ euros to add the second 480m. Holy s**t !
     
  17. rascall

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    i bought my d900f from CIZMO in germany(sent to slovakia via ups). i can share my opinion if someone needs.
     
  18. Bytales

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    The only european clevo i know of are kobalt UK; mysn, cizmo, deviltech DE, and eurocom goldmax in czech republick they are a branch of eurocom.

    You just make similar configs and take a look at the price. Convert the currency with google by writing: 1500 pounds in eur;

    And you should have a comparable result.
    You should also take in consideration shipping and further vat (For instance the VAT in my country recently rose to 24% and mysn prices include 19%VaT, thus, theoreticaly at a price of 2000 eur including 19% VAT it should further cost me (2000/119)*5=84eur, that meaning a further increase in price of 4.1%.

    Baseline is prices are similar.
     
  19. CouchPill

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    I've compared all European sellers for a couple of configurations (NVidia with i5-540 or i7-740) and the cheapest are:

    http://www.cyber-system.de/

    mySN.de

    CIZMO

    I doubt these can be beat, but models with ATI cards... I don't know.
     
  20. MrDJ

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    but which laptop CouchPill?
     

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