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What's the difference between Mac and PC (Hardware)

Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by brncao, Jan 26, 2010.

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  1. brncao

    brncao Notebook Evangelist

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    I've never used a mac before, but I was wondering if there are any differences between a mac and a PC hardware-wise. The price difference says a lot.
     
  2. Peon

    Peon Notebook Deity

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    Short version: The chassis.

    Long version: With Macs, you're paying more for the right to use Mac OS X than the hardware itself.
     
  3. weinter

    weinter /dev/null

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    The Logo on the cover.
     
  4. brncao

    brncao Notebook Evangelist

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    If so, if Apple wanted to compete with the PC market, then why are the prices so high if hardware difference is negligible? I could simply build a PC, install OS X, and call it a mac.
     
  5. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    One has more dollar signs on the price tag.
     
  6. Willsclvi

    Willsclvi Notebook Guru

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    Don't buy an Apple is the conclusion you and I are getting at here, it seems.
     
  7. wave

    wave Notebook Virtuoso

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    The hardware is the same. Mac hardware is much more selective. The hardware used by Apple is a subset of the PC hardware made by Intel and other Apple partners. You can find all the Apple hardware used in PCs by other manufactures.

    You could say that the combination is unique and selective for compatibility with OSX and also compatibility between components. There is also selection for quality. This is not unique to Apple but comparable to what HP, Dell and others use in their business or higher end consumer lines.

    The LCD, keyboard and chassis also has a pretty good reputation. The Track pad is unique. Don't think it has been copied by any PC maker. The Megasafe power adapter is also unique and a better design then any PC notebook. Also Apple care is a great service.

    Once you compare the price of the Macbook Pro's to the business lines of the big PC notebook makers the difference in price becomes much less.

    If you look at the notebook just from CPU, GPU, harddisk and ram then a mac is no different. If you want a notebook which is solid and has extras such as the megasafe power adapter and good service by the manufacture the macbooks are worth looking at.
     
  8. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    I think you mean MAGsafe--but yeah, I have to admit, after repairing a number of power jacks on laptops, I wish every laptop maker would steal the idea. However, it should be noted that while the idea is great, the implementation is shoddy. At least the early adapters used very cheap wiring causing the wires to actually melt where the cord meets the end.
     
  9. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Actual hardware - pretty much the same as any normal upper mid range "PC".

    And on a side note - you can't say better built as more Macs failed on the 8400M GS than Vaios :) (quicker than Vaios...)
    This is then counterbalanced by Dells... who also has excessive failure rates...

    (Design flaw in the graphics card - didn't take thermal cycles too well)
     
  10. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    A lot of laptops, even some cheap netbooks such as acer aspire one has the same touchpad that supports multitouch and every feature on the macbook touchpad, so the synaptics trackpad isn't unique, only the size of the trackpad is unique.
     
  11. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    and the lcd's don't have that good reputation. by now, they're okay (if you like much-too-shiny setups), but for a long time they where much below other laptops screens (they had horizontal lines each other pixel a bit darker, it looked strange).

    and they don't deliver artist-useful screens, which to me is shocking, as they try to be the 'arty guy of laptop world'. hp and dell do.

    the chasis, well, it's okay. but the unibody hype is mostly just that: hype.
     
  12. brncao

    brncao Notebook Evangelist

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    I was thinking about building my own desktop for my music needs. It'll be used as a music-making machine. Some people say it's better to go mac for that purpose, but mac is expensive. If people wanted to "go Mac" they could just build a PC and install OS X. In the end it will still function the same way as a mac, but for a much cheaper price.

    I've even heard mac lasts longer than a PC. That to me sounds like a myth. OS X may be stable sure (I'd dual-boot anyways), but hardware?
     
  13. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    Well first of all, Apple owns the legal rights to its OS i.e. you can't install OSX on a non-Mac machine: it's illegal, feasible but illegal.

    As for Macs being more stable, it's exactly what Apple says "they handpick the hardware and they design the OS that goes with it"; therefore it's "supposed" to be more stable. With Windows or Linux, the OS developers have to take into account every hardware combination and driver combination possible but with mac/OSX, that list goes down to a smaller selection. It's really that simple, nowadays Macs and PCs are more alike hardware-wise than ever before(they used to be different).

    The OS itself might be a bit more stable(being based off Unix), but overall a well-versed user will be able to maintain both a PC or a Mac well into the future.
     
  14. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    just use win7 on a normal core i5 or so, and you will love producing music on it. the question is not if the os is stable (which win7 is on most new hw, too), the question is, is your app and the plugins stable on the os.

    right now, f.e. ableton live is about as buggy on osx as on windows.


    don't even consider messing with an apple if you're not sure. it's not worth it.


    edit: i produce music btw.. just in case that wasn't obvious somehow. and i perform live gigs, and dj sometimes for up to 9 hours, and have to rely on my hw and sw 100% during those cases.
     
  15. Don Quixote

    Don Quixote Notebook Geek

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    Hardware-wise, it all comes down to whether you find a satisfactory sound card for Mac as well as connectivity & support with other musical instruments/devices. You also have to consider the fact that Mac Pro (the most expensive Mac) is the only model that provides PCI expandability.
     
  16. DetlevCM

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    May I refer you to the Forum Rules? :)
     
  17. brncao

    brncao Notebook Evangelist

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    Didn't know about it >.<

    I guess apple can set it at any price they want as long as there are demand from consumers (probably a lot fewer than PC's). People buy it for the name, looks, and the OS I guess.
     
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    I've lost count of the number of university students who claim that their Macbook purchase was revelatory, citing numerous advantages of the OS (the most outrageous being that it promotes the development of "higher level thinking") and that Apple uses their own special hardware customized specifically for their products by companies like Intel.

    Even the people who acknowledge that the hardware is the same believes that the Macbook is a multimedia monster, infinitely faster at video encoding and decoding despite having a lesser/same graphics card as a comparable Windows laptop. Sure, the multimedia software may be better, but they insist that the Apple OS does something akin to unlocking some hidden shader units or something in the Nvidia GPU.

    In short, these people believe in magic, and preach it. And their preaching gains converts. That is why people buy Apple.
     
  19. Melody

    Melody How's It Made Addict

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    IMO the OS should be the main reason one gets a Mac since it's the major difference between that and any other Windows or Linux based system. If you like, prefer, are more at ease within the OSX environment then by all means, I'm not against getting a Mac.

    Personally, I've used OSX(Leopard and Snow Leopard), Windows(95 to 7), and Linux(Ubuntu and Fedora) and I've found the differences between them for the average Joe marginal at best. I will admit that OSX does have a certain "simplicity" to it(ex: just delete an applications folder to uninstall a program) but to the common folk it wouldn't be all too noticeable.
     
  20. gdansk

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    I personally do not like Mac OS X compared to Ubuntu... However, I understand that it is very appealing to most consumers. Also, I like to be able to dual boot with Windows 7, without needing to wait for Apple to say it's "Okay!" through boot camp. Hardware wise ever since the Intel switch, Macintosh became another PC.
     
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