What is your ideal laptop?

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  1. Omexis

    Omexis Notebook Consultant

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    I have been considering a replacement laptop for my aging laptop (6 years old now). I am one to buy the one of the top tier spec going at the time and rely on it to keep me going (>4 years) before repeating the same process. I have been looking at Clevo laptops as they have a desktop CPU and near enough desktop capable GPU. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a laptop that fits my requirements.

    I'm not a on-the-move gamer, so having good graphics at home when i'm gaming is important. Just to note that a laptop is important as I like to use my laptop on the sofa or in the bedroom. I don't have enough room for a dedicated desktop environment but have room for a desktop tower near by but without the monitor etc.

    These are the ideal laptop types I would like to exist:

    1. A laptop with moderate graphics (and cheaper price) that also accepts HDMI input (or WIDI but latency will be too high for gaming) so I can connect it to a slim desktop unit that has a powerful GPU and be able to switch the laptop to displaying the output of the desktop + audio and the ability for the laptop to control the desktop with the laptop keyboard and mouse wirelessly. I know an alternative is that Alienware do a Graphics Accelerator but they are too expensive for what I consider reasonably priced laptop. Maybe a good eGPU is what i need?

    2. A laptop like the P771DM-g or P775DM-g (with the next gen 10xx dGPUs) but with the ability to switch between iGPU and dGPU (in BIOS setting is required) to the internal display if the worst comes. Apparently as of now the MXM dGPU is tied to all the display outputs including the internal display so if the MXM card goes bad you're out of luck until you can source a replacement, the laptop is effectively dead until then. In my mind this is not a good situation as you have to source a compatible MXM card which will be expensive and/or difficult, a CPU is not a problem if it dies as it's easily replaceable. I am a supporter of a "desktop replacement laptop" so that's why I like the idea that I don't have to replace the whole motherboard if the CPU or GPU fails.

    If either of these laptops would exists I would buy it, but considering the 1st option does not exist it would be number 2 when it's released but without switchable iGPU/dGPU and having to deal with the potential consequences.

    Pipe dream I know.

    I miss 1920 x 1200 displays, I'm used to the added height but they seem to be extinct! :(

    What is your ideal laptop?
     
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  2. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    I mean... I'd love a Clevo P650 laptop with a socketed cpu and MXM gpu. Then have an RGB keyboard and longer battery life. Pretty much would check all the boxes, the 980m and optional 4k GSync display are pretty awesome features in that kind of chassis, and it already has fantastic ram and storage options.
     
  3. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    We have each targeted at different markets quite deliberately. It's not really that easy to make a cheap MXM and desktop socket machine as it would be larger and more expensive than the soldered counter parts. It needs some advantage performance wise.
     
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    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Oh duh. He said "ideal" so for me that's ideal :p I know its completely unrealistic. Realistically I would like an RGB keyboard, thunderbolt III port and better battery in the P650.
     
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    Omexis Notebook Consultant

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    Then wouldn't a P751DM meet your needs?
     
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  6. Meaker@Sager

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    Well the battery life is not as long due to a lack of optimus.
     
  7. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Worse battery life, and way way too large. The P650 is subtle enough to bring to meetings and such, the P750DM is far too unwieldy and gamer looking. Trust me I know all the Clevo offerings, and while its a beastly machine its too clunky for me.
     
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    You could just use EGPU for that. Assuming you have enough parity in performance between your laptop and desktop. The gap is ever shrinking unless you have a desktop with more than 4 cores.
    On a fully implemented system, you can send GPU output to either an external monitor connected to the eGPU, or to the Laptop panel or to an external display connected to the Laptop itself.
    Furthermore, you can do this with Optimus already in place and multiple GPUs. You do take a penalty if you use the internal panel though, as you need some of that TB3 bandwidth to transfer the frame-buffer back.

    Otherwise, I'm pretty happy with my P750DM-G (it's lighter and thinner than the old W860CU and P150 chassis..can't complain with that!) but there's a few things I'm looking at:
    1. eGPU enclosure that fits my Hybrid 980Ti. Theoretically this should work, but I haven't got my hands on one nor has anybody tested one with a P700 series machine.
    2. New internal GPU. Running the 970M, hoping a 1070M or whatever new 75W skew can be subbed in for a good performance jump and save even more on power/thermals (more battery life too).
    3. New Panel. The current G-Sync panel is only 60hz which is a bit lame for FPS and such. OLED looks to be the go-to tech in that case with <1ms response times and stupid high contrast ratios. Dell just released a 30" 4K 120hz OLED panel with 0.1ms response time (assuming you could had the cash or spare organs to sell for it).
     
  9. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox Undefiled BGA-Hating Elitist

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    Anything gigantic, heavy, insanely powerful, overclocks like a banshee with a socket-mounted deskop CPU and MXM slots tend to make me happy. But, only if it has an excellent cooling system.
     
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    As in a desktop?

    You can build some pretty serious desktop machines that are small as well if your clever enough. Can even build a battery system in pretty easily with something like picoUPS or OpenUPS.
     
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