What is your favorite internet browser? (2018-2019)

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What is your favorite browser?

  1. Google Chrome

    28.4%
  2. Mozilla Firefox

    40.7%
  3. Opera

    8.6%
  4. Microsoft Edge

    6.2%
  5. Brave Browser

    4.9%
  6. Waterfox

    6.2%
  7. Pale Moon

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Chromium

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Safari

    2.5%
  10. Maxthon

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. SeaMonkey

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Avant Browser

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Vivaldi

    2.5%
  14. Other (Please mention in the comments)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    New feature.

    Whoa! Brave browser can now show you web pages that no longer exist betanews.com | Feb 25, 2020
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    When browsing the web, it can be frustrating to encounter a 404 error. You know the page isn’t there, but you don’t always know why. Has it been removed on purpose, by accident, or was it never there in the first place?

    Well, Brave -- the browser from Brendan Eich, a former CEO of Mozilla -- is about to make 404 frustration a thing of the past, by giving you the chance to view the actual web page after it’s been removed.

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    6 browsers tested in terms of data protection and identification
    [​IMG] good Morning February 25, 2020
    The School of Computer Science & Statistics, Trinity College Dublin has conducted a recent test with six different browsers to determine which one calls the least home after installation. Google Chrome, Mozilla, Apple Safari, Brave Browser, Microsoft Edge and the Yandex browser....

    "With the Brave, with its default settings, we found no use of identifiers that would allow the IP address to be tracked over time, and no sharing of the details of the websites visited with back-end servers."

    An interesting result that came out of this study. So the Brave could be given a "top grade". From the perspective of data protection and also the forwarding of data more than justified.

    If you want to read the complete report once: scss.tcd.ie/browser_privacy.pdf
     
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  2. hmscott

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    I'm using the new MS Edge (was beta till recently) with a lot of tweaking through edge://flags/ which gives me less CPU usage, Disk usage, high resolution video and audio, and supports all of my favorite chrome extensions like "The Great Suspender" which shuts down all non-active tabs to keep them from sucking CPU/GPU.

    Here's the flags I've changed / set:
    "Enabled" unless otherwise stated...

    Override software rendering list
    Overrides the built-in software rendering list and enables GPU-acceleration on unsupported system configurations. – Mac, Windows
    #ignore-gpu-denylist

    WebRTC hybrid Agc2/Agc1.
    WebRTC Agc2 digital adaptation with Agc1 analog adaptation. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-webrtc-hybrid-agc

    Anonymize local IPs exposed by WebRTC.
    Conceal local IP addresses with mDNS hostnames. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-webrtc-hide-local-ips-with-mdns

    Smooth Scrolling
    Animate smoothly when scrolling page content. – Windows
    #smooth-scrolling

    Latest stable JavaScript features [DISABLED]
    Some web pages use legacy or non-standard JavaScript extensions that may conflict with the latest JavaScript features. This flag allows disabling support of those features for compatibility with such pages. – Mac, Windows
    #disable-javascript-harmony-shipping

    Experimental JavaScript
    Enable web pages to use experimental JavaScript features. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-javascript-harmony

    Future V8 VM features
    This enables upcoming and experimental V8 VM features. This flag does not enable experimental JavaScript features. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-future-v8-vm-features

    GPU rasterization
    Use GPU to rasterize web content. Requires impl-side painting. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-gpu-rasterization

    Out of process rasterization

    Perform Ganesh raster in the GPU Process instead of the renderer. Must also enable GPU rasterization – Mac, Windows
    #enable-oop-rasterization

    Developer Tools experiments

    Enables Developer Tools experiments. Use Settings panel in Developer Tools to toggle individual experiments. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-devtools-experiments

    Zero-copy rasterizer
    Raster threads write directly to GPU memory associated with tiles. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-zero-copy

    Force Dark Mode for Web Contents
    [DISABLED] I use Dark Reader Extension.

    Automatically render all web contents using a dark theme. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-force-dark

    Runs network service in-process
    Runs the network service in the browser process. – Mac, Windows
    #network-service-in-process

    Prefetch requests for cross-origin main resources are fetched with a special NetworkIsolationKey
    Prefetch requests for cross-origin main resources can be reused by next top-level navigations when HTTP cache is double-keyed. – Mac, Windows
    #prefetch-main-resource-network-isolation-key

    Enable Display Locking [DISABLED]

    Enable Display Locking JavaScript API. The syntax and the APIs exposed are experimental and may change. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-display-locking

    Enable lazy image loading [ENABLED Automatically...]

    Defers the loading of images marked with the attribute 'loading=lazy' until the page is scrolled down near them. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-lazy-image-loading

    Enable lazy frame loading [ENABLED Automatically...]

    Defers the loading of iframes marked with the attribute 'loading=lazy' until the page is scrolled down near them. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-lazy-frame-loading

    Experimental Productivity Features
    Enable support for experimental developer productivity features, such as built-in modules and policies for avoiding slow rendering. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-experimental-productivity-features

    Compositor threaded scrollbar scrolling
    Enables pointer-based scrollbar scrolling on the compositor thread instead of the main thread – Mac, Windows
    #compositor-threaded-scrollbar-scrolling

    Choose ANGLE graphics backend [OPENGL]

    Choose the graphics backend for ANGLE. D3D11 is used on most Windows computers by default. Using the OpenGL driver as the graphics backend may result in higher performance in some graphics-heavy applications, particularly on NVIDIA GPUs. It can increase battery and memory usage of video playback. – Windows
    #use-angle

    Enable Hardware Audio Offload
    Allow Microsoft Edge to offload audio rendering on capable devices. – Windows
    #edge-clear-content-audio-offload

    Enable remote debugging through Windows Device Portal [DISABLED]
    Enables remote debugging of browser tabs over the local network through Windows Device Portal. – Windows
    #edge-devtools-wdp-remote-debugging

    Microsoft Edge scrolling personality [DISABLED]
    Enable Microsoft Edge scrolling personality for scroll and touch gesture animations. – Windows
    #edge-experimental-scrolling

    Experimental Tracking Prevention Features
    Enables upcoming and experimental improvements to Tracking Prevention. – Mac, Windows
    #edge-experimental-tracking-prevention-features

    PlayReady DRM for Windows 10
    If enabled, Microsoft Edge will use PlayReady DRM for the com.microsoft.playready key system. This feature requires Windows 10. – Windows
    #edge-playready-drm-win10

    Microsoft Edge tracking prevention

    Enables tracking prevention in Microsoft Edge – Mac, Windows
    #edge-tracking-prevention

    Enable Text Fragment Anchor.
    Enables scrolling to text specified in URL's fragment. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-text-fragment-anchor

    Audio Focus Enforcement
    Enables enforcement of a single media session having audio focus at any one time. Requires #enable-media-session-service to be enabled too. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-audio-focus-enforcement

    Media Session Service
    Enables the media session mojo service and internal media session support. – Mac, Windows
    #enable-media-session-service

    Use realtime priority thread for Audio Worklet
    Run Audio Worklet operation on a realtime priority thread for better audio stream stability. – Mac, Windows
    #audio-worklet-realtime-thread

    Turn off caching of streaming media to disk.
    Reduces disk activity during media playback, which can result in power savings. – Mac, Windows
    #turn-off-streaming-media-caching

    YUV Decoding for WebP
    Decode and render lossy WebP images from YUV instead of RGB. You must also have GPU rasterization or OOP rasterization. – Mac, Windows
    #decode-webp-images-to-yuv

    Secure DNS lookups
    Enables DNS over HTTPS. When this feature is enabled, your browser may try to use a secure HTTPS connection to look up the addresses of websites and other web resources. – Mac, Windows
    #dns-over-https
    Most of those are just "Enabled" changes, but I'll go back and edit the list to show any with specific setting changes.

    If you find any others to change from default settings please let us know :)

    Update: Here's a couple more that you might be able to use on Intel CPU's:
    WebRTC hardware video decoding
    Support in WebRTC for decoding video streams using platform hardware.
    #disable-webrtc-hw-decoding
    Not available on your platform.

    WebRTC hardware video encoding
    Support in WebRTC for encoding video streams using platform hardware.
    #disable-webrtc-hw-encoding
    Not available on your platform.

    To support some of those tweaks you also need to install from the Microsoft Store the HEVC codec and HEIF Image Extensions:

    Here’s how you can get the HEVC codec from Microsoft Store for free

    And, Enable HDR and HDR Streaming in Settings, only if your display has HDR enabled:

    Stream HDR video on Windows 10

    And, you can have mixed HDR/SDR monitors connected at once:

    Dual Monitor Windows 10 HDR with an off-side, non-HDR monitor?
     
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  3. Papusan

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    No surprise, thanks to Mozilla completely ruining the interface of Firefox and coming up with copy/cat version numbers like Google Chrome...... (Firefox 3, Firefox 4, Firefox 5, Firefox 25, Firefox 30, Firefox 44, Firefox 75, Firefox 75.0.1, Firefox 75.0.2) :rolleyes: Heck even getting Firefox to show me my bookmarks required me to research it online.
     
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    Firefox 75: Telemetry reports the default browser to Mozilla
    Published on April 9, 2020 by Günter Born
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    The just released Firefox 75 comes with a nice by-catch in the Windows version. A telemetry function transmits the operating system used and the standard browser to Mozilla every day.
     
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    And It's because of this above BS that Mozilla is doing, which is hurting their user base. Their new Quantum which is now the Firefox browser is super good but lately they are starting to hit their real users over some random changes which do not need any attention to or fixing, essentially copying the worst parts of Chrome. It's sad, esp the Stable release has some Extensions installation flexibility vs developer versions. And one more recent change to break the address bar functionality to some childish bs.

    They even had the Add-on disabling last year due to a silly certificate issue . Which should have never happened in the first place, and they started to bloat the browser with stupidity like Pocket and other garbage then Opt-Out crap as well, on top of their branding drama of FireFox etc. Unfortunate.

    You might ask why still use FF despite reduced JS and YouTube performance - Say thanks to google, their Blink which is the core aspect of any Chromium based technology runs that YT platform fast, just like many sites which are optimized for Chromium, do not say it as Chrome or separate them together. As they all are same.

    And that's the red flag for me and perhaps many users who are on Firefox, as you can see how Google selectively optimized their media platform. Chromium based any browser from Vivaldi which is best I guess to any "X" browser (Kiwi on mobile) they all use the same technology, they all take away lot of choice from the user, and every browser must bend to it at some point, now M$ which wanted to save money to pay for their engg teams since having Chakra engine for Edge or even supporting Mozilla Firefox would have been much better than handing over the keys to the single domination entity to the goliath Google shamelessly, what else could I expect from that new CEO who is just copying Apple ecosystem and as a Service model chasing only money no innovation. And on top Blink has all the data (from a privacy perspective), no matter what you do and these companies can advertise left and right, pull and push charts and ton of other stuff it doesn't matter. Period.

    With complete ceding of control of web browser to Google, they will control the web as they wish to see fit, look at Google search, it's just not a search engine anymore, it curates content and they started hiding the ad results in the search results now, I do not want to go to the other side and mention other things but it's very bad, nowadays I use Bing as well as it gets a few things correct without censorship. So they hide the domain information and push for a lot of changes, they already have a huge share of wealth pumped into Mozilla which is ensuring a Trojan Horse at play that's the reason why Mozilla copies the Google in certain aspects heavily. Be it developer dream to work at Google or to satisfy the heads at the company.

    8 years Chrome user here left to FF, cannot stand their stupidity of dumbing down the UI, Web and everything to make it simple and hide information for power users. And it works great every-time. Issues come from copying stupid features and other garbage from google but it's not worse like Chrome, shoving down the throat, you cannot even install extensions easily on Chrome outside store and there are a lot of restrictions from downloads to anything you can imagine.

    With every installation of Chrome / Chromium one is promoting monopoly over the Internet. Like IE days except that instead IE holding back as it held back much of growth, but rather Google will dictate how the web will look like and function like and what should be accepted and what not.
     
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    I recommend Edge Chromium over Chrome since it is fast and fluid than basic Chrome.

    I actually feel FF is faster than others. I am backend developer or sometimes a full stack developer and I use FF over Chromium while at work everyone uses Chrome exclusively. I always get criticized for not using using Chromium. Only issue with FF is JS debugging sucks while Chromium handles it w/o any issue and so it consumes 6GB plus RAM and then entire PC runs out of RAM. Hell, even most electron like apps like Postamn, VSCode are chrome like components which wants more RAM to operate and cache things eventhough I'm short on RAM every darn time!
    I'm looking at Ryzen thinkpads that can take 64GB/128GB or even more but now I'm seeing max 32GB RAM with one slot soldered down with 8GB RAM or even less so RAM upgrade doesn't make much sense to me!
     
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    Cent Browser remains my favorite. There was a period of about six months where there were no updates, but they did release a version based on Chromium 78 and a few days ago brought it up to version 80.
     
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    My sentiments as well. I dislike the overall design and experience of Chrome, but to a greater extent I dislike how much of a footprint it has.

    Firefox all the way! Vivaldi is wonderful and easily the best Chromium browser IMO.
     
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