What Is The Most Powerful Graphics Card Compatible With The Alienware 17 R1?

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  1. Clamibot

    Clamibot Notebook Geek

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    Greetings brethren! I just wanted to ask what is currently the most powerful graphics card I can stick in my Ranger. I've been rocking a 1060 for almost 2 years now, and it's been a great card! It allows for a solid 60 FPS in all my games. Unfortunately it doesn't satisfy my requirements anymore as the 120 Hz screen has spoiled me, and I now require that 120 FPS goodness. Since I can't get that in my newest games (without turning down settings, boooo), I'm looking for another upgrade.

    To my understanding, the Quadro P5200 offers GTX 1080 level performance, and is the most powerful graphics card that is theoretically compatible with the AW 17 R1. Has anyone tested if this card actually works in the Ranger?

    Furthermore, I don't know of any RTX MXM cards that will fit in this laptop as of today. Has anyone seen an MSI RTX 2070 MXM module? If so, is it in the same form factor as their 1070 MXM module?
     
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    There is also the rtx 5000 but due to the price of it and the p5200 no one here has yet to try them in our chassis when the 1070 is much cheaper.

    If you go the 1070 route you'll need to flash the vbios with a programmer to get more tdp allowance to maintain higher clocks, naturally the memory also can overclock as well.

    Otherwise you'd be in uncharted territory with the other mentioned cards and I too would be very interested to see the results.

    I haven't seen much of the rtx mxm cards yet, but I also haven't been looking either lol. A 2070 would be a nice addition even over the 1070.
     
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  3. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    Where is the rtx 5000? Never seen or heard of it.
     
  4. Clamibot

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    That makes total sense. The Quadro P5200 and the Quadro RTX 5000 both have exorbitant price tags, so no wonder people are hesitant to try them out, especially since the 1070 is far better in terms of price/performance ratio. I'd love to be rocking a card with RTX 2080 level performance though, that'd be sweet! Too bad the RTX 5000 is like $1800 USD.

    The Quadro RTX 5000 MXM module is for the new HP Zbook 17. It looks like this:
    RTX 5000.jpg
    It's a slightly bloated form factor MXM module, so it looks like it would require minimal chassis modding to make it fit. No stupid extra power connector either. If it turns out is does in fact work in the R1, we may need a custom heatsink for it because of the placement of the VRAM chips.

    Dell made a DGFF version of the card as well:
    DGFF RTX 5000.jpg

    I'd prefer getting an actual RTX 2070 or 2080 MXM module though since I wouldn't have to pay for the extra features in a Quadro card that I don't need.
     
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    Update: I did some research and found that MSI changed the form factor of their cards again with their RTX 2000 series. I guess we won't be sticking one of those in our Rangers. Hopefully some other company makes these in standard MXM form factor.

    New MSI MXM Form Factor:
    MSI 2070.jpg
    This is the 2080, but I think their 2070 is in the same form factor. Not sure about their 2060, but I'm betting on it being in this form factor as well.

    I am interested in seeing a complete disassembly of the new Zotac Zbox MAGNUS EN72070V. Perhaps we can do something similar to what Striker1234 did and pull the card out of this mini PC, flash it with a new VBIOS, and run it in our Rangers. Zotac used standard form factor MXM modules in their lineup with Pascal graphics cards (minus the 1080, which actually was only a bit taller than reference design), so they may be our best bet at upgrading our Rangers just once more before the CPU in this laptop model starts becoming a bottleneck for ever faster graphics cards.
     
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    I'm hoping for either 2070 or Navi myself.

    Mostly so I can finally have 1080ish performance
     
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    Any chance these future cards would not need HwInfo to manage the fans?
     
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    I'd hope they wouldn't need HwInfo for managing the fans. My GPU fan works perfectly with my 1060, however I can't be 100% sure about the Turing cards since I haven't been able to test one yet.
     
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    For me I dont really care about specific fan control, I cut the PWM cable after getting the laptop lol
     
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    1070, anything higher will TDP throttle, you'd have to look at the RTX 5000 to really see any major gains over the 1070, It'll be TDP throttled at stock TDP, but it should be marginally faster, it'll need a VBIOS chip soldered onto it as well, and will certainly run you a pretty penny, likely more than a modern 2060-2070 laptop which will destroy it and the Ranger utterly.
     
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