W86/W87 Battery Replacer

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  1. JohnnyFlash

    JohnnyFlash Notebook Virtuoso

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    Has anyone seen a block for the w86/w87/w88 that has no battery in it? These models don't really have a way to run with the battery removed, or at least without exposing the internal components. Unless I'm missing something that is... My search has come up with nothing so far. :(
     
  2. Shane@DARK.

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    Can you clarify exactly what you're looking for? I'd love to help out but I'm not sure I quite understand what you're asking.
     
  3. ChinNoobonic

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    He's asking about a a cover that fits the battery compartment. Running the W8x0 without a battery leaves the HDD exposed, so he needs a cover that will fit.
     
  4. Shane@DARK.

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    Ah, I see. I'm sorry JohnnyFlash, but there's currently nothing available for that purpose with these machines :(
     
  5. fluffyuk

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    Was looking for one for myself also :(
     
  6. Soviet Sunrise

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    Remove the cells from the casing. Usually there is a screw underneath the rubber foot that you can remove before you pry off the tabs around the two halves of the case.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/5643966-post8.html

    The cells themselves really don't weigh much so I don't see the point of trying to remove it. Lithium polymer cells are lightweight compared to the staple lithium cobalt cells that almost all notebook batteries are made of for the past how many years. Just pretend it's not there.
     
  7. JohnnyFlash

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    I'm thinking wear, heat, and power draw mostly. The small difference in weight couldn't hurt though. I'll take a look at this, see if it's worth it to me or not.
     
  8. Soviet Sunrise

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    You guys worry about the littlest things way too much. The battery is just going to sit there if you keep your PSU plugged in. The system isn't going to use any power to keep the battery "alive." Only when the battery itself falls to around 4.16-4.17V per cell will the system execute a short CV cycle to maintain maximum capacity. This barely uses a few milliamps. And that doesn't happen very often since the cells' are sitting dormant when plugged in, even under heat from the HDD. Li-ion cells are fairly robust when idle. Only when you start charging beyond 1C per cell or discharging beyond 2C (4C for these Li-poly cells) per cell will you start doing some real damage. This is why I've said so many times before that gaming is bad on battery.

    Your battery serves as a UPS, or UnParalleled Stupidity prevention device. I can talk about the various scenarios that the battery can come into play in, but I think you get the point. Not having the battery in there isn't going to make your CPU or GPU temps any better. Putting a pair of bottle caps under your notebook to prop it up will yield you better temps than yanking the battery. And I don't think anybody is having any heat problems with their HDD's in any of these notebooks, even with the hottest and most notorious drives. The concept is the same as, for example, carrying a blade with you. It's better to have it and not need it than to not have it and desperately need it. Power surges come to mind. Drunk friends that trip over your cable in your dorm room when you're typing up your thesis comes to mind. The list goes on.
     
  9. sp-1

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    As a note this is not correct there is no screw and the entire case is glued together. It must be cut in half with a knife. I did this to mine to get a look inside as I was amazed at how little the battery weighs. I made a post with some pictures in a thread a while back.
     
  10. Gagis

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    I removed the cells from the casing of my old battery when they died (swelled very much and fast) and used the top of their case to cover the battery bay until the new battery arrived.

    The difference in weight really is not that significant, but it is nice to have an empty lid around in case I want to minimize the weight for some obscure reason, or to store the battery for very long periods of desktop use, which I am not expecting to happen anytime soon.

    But I sure missed having a battery during thunderstorms before the new one arrived. Listen to Soviet folks. Having a built in UPS can come in handy.
     
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