W3j vs MacBook Pro

Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Gobzz, Apr 24, 2006.

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  1. yassarian

    yassarian Notebook Deity

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    I dunno about the backlit thou, I never look at the keyboard as I type anyway. It's definitely neat to look at, but I doubt it's usefulness... The one-button touchpad is pretty close to a dealbreaker for me -- even Apple applications/OSX utilizes the right mouse button as shortcuts for many of their operations, why it wasn't included on the touchpad on their high-end laptop is baffling (and I hope that it will get remedied in the next iteration).

    Apple utilizes 2 ODMs to make their laptops: Asustek and Quanta. Asustek makes the lower-end books, like the iBook, and Quanta makes their Powerbooks/MBPs.

    cheers,

    yass
     
  2. dysfunctiotnal

    dysfunctiotnal Notebook Consultant

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    i think the mbp screen is awesome. 300 nits compared to the common 200 nits everywhere. w3j has 200 nits too. otoh, w3j is holding its own against mbp partifularly in terms portability, modular bay, and build. must weigh that against mbp's osx + features (incl backlit keyb, boot camp), and screen.

    .. *goes back to drwaing board*
     
  3. xAMDvsIntelx

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    The thing is, Apple doesn't sell their OS like Windows does, where anyone can just go out and buy it. They sell upgrades to their existing software only. So, unless you own a Mac, you're going to have to obtain a licesing code somewhere (that's probably illegal). So basically, if you don't have a Mac, you can't run OS X, legally.

    This is also going somwhere where I don't want it to go, so I'm going to have to ask that we stop asking about how to/tips on installing OS X on a PC.

    Correction: It has been brought to my attention that it IS illegal to load Mac OS X onto a PC reguardless of if you own a Mac or buy a copy/upgrade version.
     
  4. yassarian

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    Hmm, I don't know about whether you can run osx legally or not, but you certainly CAN buy OSX separately from Apple's own website...

    http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=MA453Z/A

    Digging further... From Apple's OSX 10.4 license agreement:
    http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx104.html
    "A. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time."
    It does go on and vaguely say that certain components of it is "open source", and as such, does allow the User to modify it. Nice way to cover both ends... :D

    Then a little further down... this gem of a sentence, in all caps nonetheless, poped up:
    "THE APPLE SOFTWARE IS NOT INTENDED FOR USE IN THE OPERATION OF NUCLEAR FACILITIES, AIRCRAFT NAVIGATION OR COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEMS, LIFE SUPPORT MACHINES OR OTHER EQUIPMENT IN WHICH THE FAILURE OF THE APPLE SOFTWARE COULD LEAD TO DEATH, PERSONAL INJURY, OR SEVERE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE."

    LOL! Apple caused the Chernobyl disaster!!!!!!!! z0mg!

    cheers,

    yass
     
  5. orangutan

    orangutan Notebook Enthusiast

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    I do lots of coding (C++ mainly), for which I personally do not touch type...I do look at
    the keyboard a lot. Typically, for writing code, text input rate is not the bottleneck
    anyway. Design is. In any case, the backlit KB is a big feature to me.

    I have been refining my fvwm (my preferred X11 window manager) setup to deal
    with one mouse button, and have been working for the last week with an ever evolving
    configuration. To be honest, I think I may overcome the mouse button limitation,
    although I agree it is pretty silly for them to have not mimicked the mighty mouse on
    the MBP.




    I thought I read somewhere Quanta was dropped. I guess I was wrong, since I cannot
    find such a reference now. Doesn't matter much I suppose, since Quanta can do
    quality too.
     
  6. yassarian

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    Yea the contract Apple signed with Quanta/Asus are good at least till 2007.

    cheers,

    yass
     
  7. EdF

    EdF Notebook Consultant

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    Same disclaimer Sun has for Java. Can't say I blame either of them. That kind of software requires special treatment before it's used.

    - Ed
     
  8. TheUndertow

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    I like the keyboard when surfing in bed at night...that type of thing. I'm a pretty good typer but if I take my hands off the keyboard or need to find some other keys (nums...etc) I do need to take a look.

    I've never used a Mac w/ this type of keyboard...intriguing though.

    IBM has a light on the T60 I believe - don't know how well it works, but it's not as sexy as the Macs.
     
  9. Arvin

    Arvin Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm impressed with the info in here. I came into the thread expecting a lot of bias and asus-bashing, but I guess i was wrong :) . good stuff
     
  10. xAMDvsIntelx

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    I think the IBM has a little USB light if I'm not mistaken, to "light up" the keyboard.
     
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