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W230ST - The 13" We've been waiting for!?

Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by HTWingNut, Jan 25, 2013.

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  1. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Brain size of a planet...

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    VISIT THE OWNER'S LOUNGE FOR MORE DETAILED INFORMATION!

    All credit goes to NBR member "do Malho" for finding this little tidbit: http://forum.notebookreview.com/wha...-gaming-worth-compendium-104.html#post9053035

    Basically it looks like we could have a 13" Clevo notebook with the following specs:

    Clevo W230ST
    13.3" 1920x1080 LCD
    Haswell quad-core CPU
    mid-grade nVidia GDDR5 GPU (760m?)
    Backlit Keyboard
    Sound Blaster Cinema Audio

    ETA: July 2013

    Here's to hoping battery life is halfway decent. Not to mention it should sport a 9.5mm 2.5" bay and an mSATA slot. I'm sure it's not going to be in the "thin and light" category. But if it's no thicker than the W110ER I'll be fine with that. Still be a good size and if specs are true awesome performer, in likely less than 5 lbs package. I'm going to assume 120W PSU required. I also hope they offer a quality LCD, with possibly IPS or high viewing angle/gamut/brightness panel as an option at least... and MATTE!

    Now if they can offer that same 13" with an AMD Trinity 2.0 APU with no dedicated GPU and drop the price $400, they'd satisfy a whole LOT of users.
     
  2. Calibre41

    Calibre41 Notebook Evangelist

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    I like the sound of this!, a 760m gpu would be incredible. following in the W110's 650m wake I suppose (am I right in saying this was ground breaking performance in this form factor, I'm not aware of anything close to it?

    I'd like to see the 1366x768 and the 1920x1080 panel options. I agree fully that high resolution gaming can't be beaten, the more the better, I still miss Battlefield 3 on my Dell U3011 at 2560x1600 it was just stunning in comparison to 1080p!
    I do however find general computer use, programs, and browsing more comfortable at 1366x768. I know I can run 768 on the desktop and 1080 in game but I don't like the interlacing on the desktop - it's never quite good enough, things look slightly furry.................. I'm so picky :p
     
  3. Prostar Computer

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    Only concern here would be with heat buildup in the smaller chassis. But Clevo is good about addressing heat dissipation.
     
  4. Meaker

    Meaker Company Representative

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    It will be intersting if nvidia pull up the bootstraps of its series again.

    Will we get gk107 and 104 refreshes or will the 760 be a cut down gk106 or continue as the top end gk107?

    Im quite interested, maybe it will be the gtx770m....
     
  5. TheBlackIdentity

    TheBlackIdentity Notebook Evangelist

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    This will probably get the improved version of the current 660m witch will be named the 750m.
     
  6. HTWingNut

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    Funny, I prefer a higher res for desktop because it's better for multitasking, but lower resolution for gaming because performance is better.
     
  7. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    I do not have a doubt in my mind if this comes out the way I think it will... this baby will be a top seller for Clevo - Sager! :)
     
  8. arcticjoe

    arcticjoe Notebook Deity

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    awesome, if the screen has a decent colour gamut this will be probably end up being my next laptop.
     
  9. robohgedhang

    robohgedhang Notebook Evangelist

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    Is there any picture of this W230ST lying somewhere in the internet?
     
  10. gitt13

    gitt13 Notebook Consultant

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    Can anyone resellers take a guess or have any idea what the price point will be?

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
     
  11. HTWingNut

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    I'm sure they are as much in the dark as we are as far as pricing considering they don't even know pricing on new stuff until like 24-48 hours before release.

    But if it comes as I spec'ed it: 45W quad core (unless there's more 35W quad options), 1080p screen, backlit keyboard, stock HDD, GT 750m/760m probably about $1000 base.
     
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    999 base would be golden

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  13. Any_Key

    Any_Key Notebook Evangelist

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    If I had to guess for a base (based on the current W110ER model), it would be an i5 with option to upgrade to an i7, the GPU will probably be a 750M... maybe a 760M but I'm not holding my breath on that. Guessing that the 750M performance would probably be ~660M ballpark... just a wild guess due to the performance NBcheck did on the 730M as it performed a bit over the 640M. Wild guess on base pricing, $949, will a really nice spec'd (RAM, HD upgrade) at $1200.
     
  14. HTWingNut

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    Well if they can cram in a 650m (~ 45W TDP) and 45W CPU in the 11.6" I would think they could manage a 60-65W TDP GPU. 670mx is considered a 75W TDP GPU, although I think it's a bit less than that. With some process improvements if they can get that to 65W it would be a perfect match, although I think a 13.3" with Clevo cooling could handle a 45W CPU + 75W GPU combination as long as they don't include an optical drive. Oh yeah, please Clevo NO OPTICAL DRIVE! That's prime real estate for additional cooling. Thanks. :)

    For 1080p gaming the 128-bit bus would be a bit restrictive, but 192-bit would be great in that form factor. 256-bit would be nice, but not likely considering all 256-bit cards are 100W. The 660m already shows its weakness at 1080p because of the 128-bit bus bandwidth. If anyone can do it, clevo can. This thing will likely be 1.5" thick at thickest point, and likely weigh about 5 lbs. But it's overall size should be appreciably smaller and lighter than most 15" notebooks with similar hardware.
     
  15. Meaker

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    The 660M starts to struggle at 1080p mostly due to the shaders (only being 384 of them). The bus complements them well.
     
  16. HTWingNut

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    Well bus and shaders. 128-bit even on a desktop card struggles with 1080p performance. I have a Radeon 6670 with GDDR5 vRAM in a desktop and it does great at 1600x900 or 1280x720 but it just drops performance like a rock at 1080p. Although my GTX 460 performs admirably at 1080p but it's a 192-bit bus with only 336 cores, with comparable clocks to the 660m that has 128-bit bus and 384 cores.

    But whatever, I guess squeeze max performance they can please. 192-bit 1000+ cores please. :)
     
  17. Meaker

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    Remember Fermi cores are clocked at twice the core clock so 336 fermi cores are worth more. The GK107 is more related to the GT450 desktop with 192 fermi cores.
     
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    I'm Hoping their Design will be like Sony Z or S series, not bulky like they have today and hoping they will have Optical drive too.
     
  19. Meaker

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    It's likely to be similar in design to the current 11 inch model.
     
  20. HTWingNut

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    I agree.

    Please no optical drive. Waste of space imho for these types of machines, as long as they make use of it for improved cooling and/or dual 2.5" SSD/HDD bays. I'd be fine with dual mSATA + one 2.5" SSD. There's more mSATA III options and in decent sizes and reasonable prices now, with only more coming. I'd be fine to ditch the 2.5" bay altogether if they offered dual mSATA, but that won't happen this time around, especially with a Clevo.
     
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