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Vaio Flip: the Yoga hinge comes to Sony

Discussion in 'Sony' started by Mitlov, Aug 28, 2013.

  1. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

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    The Alienware 14 is indeed a beast of a 14-incher. I don't have the specs right in front of me, but I think it's about twice as thick as the Blade, maybe even more.
     
  2. FenderP

    FenderP Notebook Deity

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    I didn't take it as snarky. I genuinely love that optical trackpoint.

    I'll have to look, but i don't think i changed anything. Mine doesn't drift. Guess I just work it in a way where my moving doesn't cause additional things to happen.
     
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    Clerish Notebook Enthusiast

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  4. Ashers

    Ashers Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm also a big fan of the optical trackpoint on the Duo 11, though I think that's partly because it comes with physical left/right/middle buttons.

    I set the acceleration to max and the pointer speed at ~75%. That way I can flick around the screen pretty quickly, without having the issue you talk about that the pointer jumps when you move your finger away from the pointer. I also turned off "tapping".
     
  5. Woodgypsy

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    Yeah, aside from screen (too poor especially for its price) and battery life, Razor Blade is s pretty impressive laptop. (Alienware 14, on the other hand, is what I'd call an impressively stupid laptop -- what's the point of having small screen if it is so bulky anyway? Just get Samsung Series 7 instead -- but you cannot expect anything else from Alienware). Unlike other "gaming" laptop, you can probably take it to serious occasions without embarrassing yourself, too. It is battery life is less than desirable, though it is expected for its high idle power usage -- which is why you don't want quad-core, full-power CPUs in laptops that are meant to be portable.

    I also think some of you have too high hope in i7-4558U. Remember that Iris 5000 is limited by TDP (that is why no one except Apple uses it, aside from customized Vaio Duo 13 which can use uTDP), where as 5200 is limited by bandwidth. Although 4558U has 13 extra watts to play with, it also has higher voltage CPU -- I am not sure if 5100 actually has enough juice to use its full power, especially when CPU is also under full load. And even if it can get enough power, it is still limited by its bandwidth (when some people complain about 64bit interface of 735.....). Theoretical peak frequency under turboboost are not that different between 4500 and 4558 -- obviously, 4558 is going to be faster in CPU-heavy applications, but the difference would not be very large. And for gaming, 4500 (with dGPU) with adequate cooling solution doesn't have to share power with its GPU, So, there are good reasons why many companies opted for 4500 with optional dGPU.

    However, I'd love to see i7-4650 with uTDP options on 13/14 inch flips, though.
     
  6. nMIK-3

    nMIK-3 Notebook Evangelist

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    Here are some models and official specs with suggested prices for some European Models:

    VAIO Fit 13A - SVF13N1L2ES
    VAIO Fit 13A - SVF13N1Y9ES
    VAIO Fit 15A - SVF15N1S2ES
    VAIO Fit 15A - SVF15N1Z2EB

    edit:
    The promotional webpage is now up on Sony.de.
    So far the letter U is next to every model's CPU and the only NVIDIA I see is the awful 735M. Both very bad news for me and my needs :(
    Such an amazing design and innovation, qHD stunning screen, 512 SSD and 16GB RAM out of the box, with ULV CPU and so weak GPU.... Its a shame and pity especially for the 1500Euro/2000USD 15'' variant, especially when the current generation of VAIO Fit, available before the summer comes with NVIDIA 740M options.

    I am crossing my fingers that some markets will get extra models, maybe customised options. They really have no excuses.
     
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    Clerish Notebook Enthusiast

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    While looking at these pdf files I noticed that their address has a progressive number at the end, so by changing it I found the specs of the other Flips and of the Tap 11s. Here are the links and some observations:


    Flip:

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibrary/DownloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=264514
    SVF13N1J2ES - Silver Flip 13 with i3, 4GB, 128GB. €1000

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibrary/DownloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=264515
    SVF13N1L2ES - Silver Flip 13 with i5, 8GB, 128GB. €1200

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibrary/DownloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=264516
    SVF13N1Y9ES - Silver Flip 13 with i7, 8GB, 256GB, Mini wifi router + HDMI to VGA. €1500

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibrary/DownloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=264517
    SVF15N1E2ES - Silver Flip 15 with Pentium 3556U, 4GB, 500+8GB. €800

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibrary/DownloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=264518
    SVF15N1L2ES - Silver Flip 15 with i5, 4GB, 500+8GB. €1000

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibrary/DownloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=264519
    SVF15N1S2ES - Silver Flip 15 with i5, 8GB, 1000+16GB, GT735M. €1200

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibrary/DownloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=264520
    SVF15N1X2EB - Black Flip 15 with Same as above + "Super Hi-Res" panel. €1300

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibrary/DownloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=264521
    SVF15N1Z2EB - Black Flip 15 with i7, 12GB, 1000+16GB, GT735M, "Super Hi-Res" panel. From the picture it sems to be the only 15 inch version provided with stylus. €1500

    I hope there is also a black version of the Flip 13. Maybe by customizing it?


    Tap 11:

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibrary/DownloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=264522
    SVT1121B2EW - White Tap 11 with Pentium 3560Y, 4GB, 128GB, GPS. Weight 0.78Kg, 9.9mm thick. €800

    http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibrary/DownloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=264523
    SVT1121W9EB - Black Tap 11 with i5 Y, 4GB, 128GB, GPS, 4G/LTE. Weight 0.83Kg, 10.5mm thick. €1200

    It's interesting to see how the Core processor makes the black version a bit heavier and thicker.
     
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  8. Vogelbung

    Vogelbung I R Judgemental

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    Are there any 13-inchers with the digitiser?
    (or can I reuse the Duo 13 digitiser)

    EDIT: nvm to the first Q, clicked on the link and I see the flagship model has digitiser. Would be curious about second Q.

    EDIT 2: Gewicht is blank. Boo.
     
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    Kinda disappointing ..

    €1200 for an i5 and a GT 735m .. ?

    No thanks ..
     
  10. Clerish

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    All Flip 13 models have digitizer.
    The preview models of Flip 13 and Flip 15 shown at IFA had the same DuoSense2 stylus as the Duo 13. I don't know if they will be changed in the final models.

    Gewicht, I looked it up and it means weight, right? You could find that in the European press release:
    Sony - Setting the new standard in personal computing: VAIO® Fit multi-flip

    It seems the weight was just taken out, but I remember what was written there:
    Flip 13: 1.2Kg
    Flip 14: 1.8Kg
    Flip 15: 2.0Kg
     
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