Upgrading storage for Zbook 17 (original)

Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by BlameTheEx, Mar 5, 2019.

  1. pete962

    pete962 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    70
    Messages:
    450
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    56
    First of all personally I would not even look or take into consideration the endurance of SSD, unless you'll run the laptop as 24/7 server, there is very little chance to even hit 500TB writes, before laptop fails otherwise or becomes obsolete. Also I would use 32GB MSATA for Linux only, or get rid of it. All my laptops use at least 30-40GB for Win system files and it would require a lot of effort to fit it on 32GB drive, not worth it if you'll have TB's on the other drive. If I was you, I would get 1TB Samsung EVO and be done with it, you don't really need PRO for your usage and if and when run out of space, I would get something new then, there is no reason not to update the system in the future, when necessary most likely for less money. I found out long time ago that my computer usage changes constantly, so are the requirements of the hardware, so trying to future proof the computer could be pointless.
    I also would probably get cheap 1TB USB HDD for backups only, so all your data is not only on the computer (in case laptop is lost for example).
     
  2. BlameTheEx

    BlameTheEx Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Hiya pete. Um sorry I didn't notice your post before which started on a new page. My last post got some serious editing after yours which was not nice of me.

    Very much in agreement with you. I am indeed planning to load the 32GB with linux. Won't get rid of it cause it does no harm where it is and its at least possible to do damage in the process. I agree that with a large SSD the chances of hitting the write limit is small. The Evo is a decent choice. Just a tad more expensive than the Mx500. Perhaps an equal tad better too but my budget is stretched.

    A simple ITB solution is a viable option but I am a bit of a perfectionist. The laptop has massive RAM, a gob smacking CPU, an almost unbeatable screen (at least until windows learns how to scale up a 4k screen properly), and a video card which if not the bees knees for games has all the right protocols for video intensive software. Finishing up that lot with just an ordinary capacity of storage is just mean. Plus the damned thing was designed to be immortal. You can store an awful lot of data in, well, forever.

    I have removed the 750GB HD from the laptop and ordered an external USB box for it. It will be for backup and transferring data between what will be my daughter's two laptops. Don't matter how many backup drives you leave in the laptop - they all get stolen together. Hopefully she will keep the two laptops in separate locations. Least I can dream. When she was young she kept loosing calculators so I bought her a batch. So she took the whole batch to school and lost them together. Grrr. Can't even protest cause I know exactly where she got those genes from.
     
  3. pete962

    pete962 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    70
    Messages:
    450
    Likes Received:
    172
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Hi BlameTheEx
    No problem, I mentioned EVO instead of PRO since they're both made by Samsung, but Mx500 should be fine as well (without benchmarking hard to tell difference in performance in day to day use between most SSD). Getting USB enclosure and re-purpose old HDD for backup is exactly what I do as well. I have 2 daughters, 8 and 11 yr old and just did something similar, upgraded HDD to SSD on 2 of our old laptops and gave them to kids to play, learn to program Scratch, watch Youtube etc. With SSD those old laptops perform like new. One thing I noticed is that SSD are dropping in prices a lot and this trend should continue, that's why I suggested to buy 1TB SSD now and if short on space in the future, then add another 2 or 4TB, but if you want to be done with with it now, why not. For me 1TB storage was more than enough until I started recording 4k home videos and transferring old HD DV tapes to my computer, so now 2-4TB doesn't seem much and probably will be adding more storage soon, but I don't know what your storage needs are. Good luck with your new computer.
     
  4. BlameTheEx

    BlameTheEx Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Ok. Admissions time. I bought a Crucial Mx500 2TB yesterday. Cost me £150 + £10 transport + about five hours of my life i'm never going to get back.
    That last because I bought it on gumtree from a guy who didn't think to check if his machine had the space before buying it. Problem was he also didn't think to go to bed the night before my first attempt at bang bang banging on his door. Might not sleep nights but a sound daytime napper. So that was 2 round trips across London to collect.

    Finally in and installed with windows 10 pro so I can boast to the world rather than hide my incompetence . Didn't give it a password but I'm hoping it will be happy with the original Win 8 pro licence. It doesn't seem to be complaining.
    So, more or less kept to the budget. I would have gone for any of the other options happily enough but this was the deal that turned up. total spend roughly £530.
     
  5. BlameTheEx

    BlameTheEx Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Pete.

    You do have a point and I will admit that over buying memory has bitten me all too often in the past. But yeh, I just wanted the whole thing done. When you are as skinflint as me every laptop is a saga of dodgy deals and setups that might turn others to religion but just leaves me with a firm conviction in the existence of the devil. Truth is I will now be overjoyed if I never see the bugger again cause that will mean another session of daddy will fix it.

    Not that daddy fix has ended just yet. There is the laptop that daughter bought for herself. Don't know much about it other than it is some sort of games machine that her boyfriend thought was a good idea at the time. Apparently it has a 4k screen that windows made unusable till it was set to 1080 mode. A caution to us all.

    Anyway she tells me it got left with some guy to fix some weeks ago after it stopped and started making funny noises. He reported back that it needed a new motherboard and daughter concluded she needed a new laptop. Huh, I says, peep sounds? (thinking of the POST beep call of a distressed motherboard). No. A ticking sound? That was it. Fool repairman knows not the death rattle of a HD.

    So she got the beast back and it will be my next task. This time I will be going with your suggestion Pete, and just dumping in a cheap 1TB SSD. Don't have as much faith in the life expectancy of a games machine, however posh, and I expect it's now going to be the reserve laptop. Plus the horrible thought that the guy might be right, or at least right now after he played with it.
     
Loading...

Share This Page