Touchscreen Macs incoming with apple silicon.

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  1. kojack

    kojack Notebook Virtuoso

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    WHO CARES when they "employ" them. They are in coming now, and are going to be beasts. ARM chromebooks are playtoys for students.
     
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    Of course I could be wrong but I doubt their incoming right now (touchscreen MacBooks), but yeah it’s been clear for a while that mobile and desktop would eventually converge despite their denials. Probably just the beginning with bringing the UI closer to mobile.

    I can’t imagine them doing a half hazard touch screen laptop. When they do touch it will likely be a foldable or maybe even a desktop Mac. Current gen conventional touch laptops even at the high end are more a novelty with pretty crude touch and without laminated displays aside from the likes of the Surface which is pretty decent.
     
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    To SMEs, computing equipment costs matters. Connectivity also matters.
    Certainly, u or others may say there are many lower cost home/student use models out there for SMEs to buy for their staffs use. But if can save further with lower cost ARM CPU/SOC that offers Mobile network connectivity as well... Wouldn't that a huge savings?
     
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    those people would not buy Apple computers regardless of processor. Try again. We get it you don’t like Apple. Move along.

    oh they are coming ASAP. And yes, I agree they will be deadly. iOS is the best touch based OS available, and they will have a iOS based macOS system. Hence the reason for arm and iOS apps
     
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    Hmmm... we been gohing on ARM CPU powering mega sized computing hardwares or just on the Apple ARM+Apple OS+Apple Hardware subject?
    I've been on the ARM+No Specific OS+Hardware side of the track, u know...?

    No doubt... u're partially spot on. I'm a APPLE hater. To the brand, to the company which is not honest on computing product pricing. However, i don't hate the OS at all... infact, i'm planning to "Rykentosh" my Legion 5 when it arrives. If installation fails, then i will go probably Linux/Windows dual install. In content creation and media works, Apple software can offer more than Windows do. However when it comes to execution of office works, Apple is still a few steps away from Windows.

    I see the potential of ARM CPU not only can entertain, can game, can create, can work. But can it drive "big trucks" in computing world, it's still yet to be determine as we don't see ARM CPUs being a small heart with big body.
     
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    Apples arm will, the rest not so much. Apple has already proven their arm chips are much more powerful than any other considering a 2 generation old iPad Pro outgunned a core i5.
     
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    Yes it smoked it in Adobe Rush, a program designed for ARM which also has cross comparability on x86 with software encoding... I'd love to see a current article as I believe Adobe may have actually enabled hardware encoding for x86 platforms in March of this year, although I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't.
     
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    Actually.....it was using x86 in emulation. So, the intel chip had a significant advantage.

    I am trying to find the article now.

    Here is one, not the one I am remembering reading, but again it shows apple's chips are quite powerful. And in a laptop application, battery life and more memory will make it outstanding.
    The article I remember was using a 2018 ipad pro and a macbook with i5 using premire

    https://wccftech.com/2020-ipad-pro-...-but-only-slightly-faster-than-2018-ipad-pro/
     
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    While I agree Apple’s ARM CPUs are pretty powerful and getting competitive with current x86 CPUs, Geekbench however is a terrible benchmark it’s better to use it to compare between mobile devices. This even putting aside quirks like where an Epyc 7501 in Windows scored like 1/4 of what it would get on Linux last year...

    In Bapco Tablet Mark the A12X doesn’t do that well against the same CPU it supposedly smoked, does it mean Bapco is better, no I’m just saying better not to simply go by one benchmark. Of course performance per watt also needs to be considered where ARM implementations have a big advantage.

    And things aren’t as black and white even with encoding as it can be accelerated by GPU which the integrated Intel one hasn’t really been updated since Broadwell in 14/15, aside from the recently released Tiger Lake that is. So encode can be a reflection of the SoC as a whole rather than just the cores themselves.

    Anandtech had a better write up showcasing how far ARM CPU Cores have come using various benchmarks rather than Geek alone.

    Overall I can’t wait to see all these new custom ARM implementations from Apple, Ampere etc take on x86 performance and market share in the long run.
     
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