Tongfang GK5NR-O, GK7NP-R (Ryzen 4000 mobile)

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  1. genexis_x

    genexis_x Notebook Consultant

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    XMG has just announced that there will be 2 new AMD models from Tongfang - GK5NR-O, GK7NP/NR-R. These are based on the same chassis used for Intel based models (GK5MP/MR-O, GK7MP/MR-R)

    GK5NRFO (1650Ti, boosted to 65W)
    GK5NR0O (2060, boosted to 110W)
    thin and light
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    GK7NPFR (1650Ti, boosted to 65W)
    GK7NR0R (2060, boosted to 110W)
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    Too bad only 46Wh battery is available. @XMG is 63Wh battery upgrade possible in both models? Also, the storage section didn't mention 2.5 inch bay, is it available?

    https://bestware.com/en/xmg-core-15-amd.html
    https://bestware.com/en/xmg-core-17-amd.html
     
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  2. Ed. Yang

    Ed. Yang Notebook Evangelist

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    Sigh... A pity... no "whole red blood species".
     
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    custom90gt Doc Mod Super Moderator

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    They aren't competitive at this time, it would not be a popular option.
     
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  4. NomenAK

    NomenAK Notebook Guru

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    Why just a 2060 ? 4800H is CPU way to strong for this GPU, can't understand why manufacturer associate AMD with low cost PC, a slim version like the Tongfang GM7MP0P with 2070 Super and good Battery should work as a beast and for a lower price than an I7 10875H, the battery life is way superior with those Renoir CPU, the thermal too, Can't understand..
     
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    Battery life remains to be seen and thermals are just as hot as intel. In-fact, while intel pulls more wattage, these Ryzen 4K series run just as hot, if not hotter at the same wattage. The version that we're talking about here is pretty special. A 110w 2060 is pretty slick. However, when you have a GPU and CPU that share the same heatsink, Ryzen doesn't exactly look like it runs a cool as you'd think when it has to share its thermal solution with 110w versus the 90w it has been paired with.

    I have one of these in-house right now. It's awesome :)
     
  6. NomenAK

    NomenAK Notebook Guru

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    Battery life is around 8h with a 62wh so imagine with a 90+wh battery, I'm not sure if they run as hot, i see a lot of benchmark where Ryzen 4800h run about 70° in Cinebench or Rendering, when I7 10875H run around 90° with double of the TDP, there is no magic, 7nm against 14nm, if they run hotter its because manufacturer make low cost laptop with it, with less heat pipe etc, look at the ROG Zephyrus G15, less Heatpipe and obturated ariflow, so after all of that, that no point, why making cheap laptop ? why they can't get a 2070 Super ? it's non sense, if its saving cost mesure or thermal mesure, a 4600h should be as great with a 2070.

    Sorry for asking Bob but when can we get our review of the new MAX17, can't wait :D
     
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    I’m not trying to make an argument for intel and I’ve expressed my joy for the 4800h numerous times. Ryzen 4K is showing signs of running just as hot under combined loads that it’ll often find itself in while pulling less wattage doing it. Let me explain.

    Temps are far more interesting when you combine GPU loads. With Ryzen 4K I was first suspicious of this in March, testing the A15 as it was running 80c with moments near 100c while only pulling 26w (mid 30w spike here and there) when combined with an 80w GPU load.

    Fast forward to early May and we’ve seen two versions of the G15, each one with and without its fans blocked. The G14 with its binned CPU and a measly 65w GPU to share heat with, plus the MSI Bravo. All of those have a GPU that pulls 90w or less. I’m seeing the same high temps, 90c and hotter, during combined load on the AMD chip. Something we’ve grown accustomed to with intel.

    Add the higher wattage GPU like we have in this Tongfang chassis that isn’t as wattage neutered. It’s getting more CPU wattage during a combined load along with 110w 2060. I’m pretty sure it has a better cooler than most of what’s currently available featuring Ryzen 4K and its GPU hangs at its max temp of 86c along with its CPU into the 90’s with ease. This is of course gaming like we show in reviews for these gaming laptops. That’s a pretty fair and realistic test of thermal expectations.

    Stephen from Own or Disown has tested the A15, G15 and G14 confirming the same temps.

    Early on, my thoughts immediately went to “Wonder how hot Ryzen 4K will get when it has to share its cooler with a GPU that’s pulling near twice the wattage or more?” Because I badly want to see the 2070 or better paired with Ryzen 4k, but if temps are king, then prepare to be dissatisfied just in case.

    Meanwhile I have the MAX-17 here which has the same cooler as the MAX-15. Its 10875h runs hotter solo, no doubt, but 90c CPU under “Beast Mode” while dealing with a 2070 MaxP Super pulling above 115w (perhaps near 150w) and hasn’t gone over 81c yet after three weeks of abuse. Stock paste.

    Now I can go on about how great the 4800h is, I have already and will continue to do so.

    -Easy to work with
    -Not as loud under solo CPU loads
    -Scores 3k in CB 20 on battery

    Let your mind wander on those three alone and no doubt it’s the step in the right direction for laptops.
     
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    NomenAK Notebook Guru

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    Ohh ok interesting, thank you for sharing your experience, i understand what you say, i have hope for next generation of laptop, with Intel and AMD, it's a great step forward.
     
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    Honestly we see some brands offering max-q -80 sku gpus alongside intel cpus in thin and lights. They run hot, but usually they run a little better than their lower specced counterparts. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same is possible here. I don’t know how I feel about these kinds of laptops, but there’s definitely a demand for them.
     
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    Why such a small battery :-(

    This could have been a serious contender
     
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