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Thinkpad X120e/X121

Discussion in 'ThinkPad Edge, X1, X100e/X120e, & SL/L' started by Hoopsontoast, Apr 15, 2011.

  1. Hoopsontoast

    Hoopsontoast Notebook Consultant

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    Having been initially disappointed with the X120e stated not being released in the UK/Europe, there was a post on the Lenovo Facebook page announcing that Germany would be getting it in April/May. Now it seems they have updated it and they are not releasing in the UK/Europe.
    Anyone know why there is this confusion with the X120e?
    There was a leaked 'roadmap' around that stated that the X120e would be up until Q3 2011 and a replacment (tagged X121e) would be bought in.

    I just cant seem to see why they are not releasing it in area's outside the US, when it clearly would be popular, initially anouncing a worldwide release, then cutting it back, then announcing it then cutting it again. I can only think that as someone mentioned some sellers have a lot of X100e's left and are wanting to get rid of those (slower than expected) and skip the X120e for its replacement (whenever that is).

    Just annoying as thats the only real professional laptop that combines the value of a netbook and power of an ultraportable and build of a thinkpad. Currently in the UK there is not really any competition, so why not release it?

    http://wingsanlee.blog.so-net.ne.jp/upload/detail/image/2011-02-20T00:13:36-2c3a1.jpg.html

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  2. husky55

    husky55 Notebook Evangelist

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    Why can't you just buy from a dealer from the US and have it shipped to the UK. I sometimes shopped at the Amazon UK and had no problem with shipping or prices.

    The replacement for the x120e is supposed to have the AMD e450 sometimes this fall, but the improvement is small if I remember correctly.
     
  3. afhstingray

    afhstingray Notebook Prophet

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    AFAIK its available for corporate orders even in those other markets where its not available for personal purchase.

    your average user is going to go wow over the thinkpad edge instead of the x120e, thats probably why. too similar.
     
  4. Hoopsontoast

    Hoopsontoast Notebook Consultant

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    I would order from the US, but i asked in another thread about the warranty, would i have to send it back to the US with any problems, and also dealing with the US keyboard.
    Pretty much decided to go for a replacment for my Toshiba M5 with possibly a T410i for the moment then wait until the autumn (Q3) to see if the replacment for the X120e comes to the UK.
     
  5. k2001

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    I believe most current of the model have international warranty but Lenovo state that certain countries require documentation of importation.
     
  6. Benchmade 42

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    X121 sounds exciting.
     
  7. k2001

    k2001 Notebook Deity

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    If the x121 should use the soon to be release e-450 it will have minimal improvement on the processor(1.6 vs 1.65) speed and graphic, what's interesting is that it is going to have Turbo Boost like overclocking call Turbo Core.
     
  8. Pseudorandom

    Pseudorandom Notebook Evangelist

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    I wonder about the Turbo Core on the E-450.

    The current Turbo (Ex: Thuban Ph2 X6 1090T) from AMD is a bit lacking, it boosts by a set amount if half the cores are idle. Its supposedly nice for Linux users since its completely hardware, though I don't have a Turbo Core CPU to test with.

    The next gen Turbo (Ex: Interlagos Opty's) doesn't seem fit for ultraportable laptops. Its designed to overclock any core that has a load up until the chip hits TDP, sort of like a reverse of the PowerTune functionality in AMD graphics cards. Unless you're running a power virus type program, the chip should be overclocked any time it has stuff to do. From what I've heard, its more intended for server people so they can use exactly the amount of power they have bought from their rackspace provider and no more. Though you could say that stuff will finish faster so the chip can return to idle, I am a bit doubting about the benefit of that.
     
  9. Hoopsontoast

    Hoopsontoast Notebook Consultant

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    Anybody heard any news on the replacement for the X120e, and if its likely to come to the UK?
    We have to make do with the Edge 11 over here :(
     
  10. jw8725

    jw8725 Notebook Geek

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    I live in the UK and got me a x120e from USA. I've just done a clean install with an OCZ Agility III. About to purchase 2 X 4 gig G.Skill RAM. I'm very happy so far with it.
     
  11. Hoopsontoast

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    Ah cool, how do you get on with the US keyboard and may i ask roughly how much it cost including import duty, VAT, delivery etc?
     
  12. not.sure

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    I agree it's stupid that they don't make it available everywhere. Or does anyone know of another netbook as cheap as the X120 with a modern CPU/GPU tandem, matte screen, and three touchpad buttons?
     
  13. afhstingray

    afhstingray Notebook Prophet

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    as far as i know, there is no duty/additional taxes on computers, so all you'll have to pay is Delivery+VAT. If you buy from ebay, which i suggest you do, you can ask the seller to find out how much fedex is. If they sell a lot, it'll only be around 50-80 pounds if they have an account with the courier.


    but its no good for a cheap laptop, sine 20% vat + 50-80 pound is a significant premium to pay on a laptop that only costs 250-350 pounds
     
  14. vēer

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    Why only Fedex? USPS is IMO as good and as cheap alternative. Delivery fees vary from seller to seller, some overcharge to make more money from overseas shipments.

    OP, I say if you want X120e now then import it from USA and be done with it ;)
    If you dont need it now then wait as long as you can and see what else Lenovo offers in your region or get something you feel comfortable with from USA.
     
  15. afhstingray

    afhstingray Notebook Prophet

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    yes, but is the X120e worth its current price + 20% more + ~30 pounds for delivery? i have got 4-5 kilo packages from the US before and the postage was around that. by the end of all that you're looking at an X120e that costs you almost 700 US$
     
  16. vēer

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    That depends of what configuration he orders, how much he pays for it and how much it/comparable laptop would cost him if it was available in his country.
    Tho I agree that in most cases its more profitable to order med-high price range laptops or EOL products with great discounts rather than plain cheapest budget line laptops+given that in USA laptops come only with 1 year standart warranty one might lose out on that aspect as well(cheap budget class laptop+1year warranty might turn out more expensive or as almost expensive as in ones home country after VAT and shipping costs added).

    Thats the reason why I spent months looking for a deal until I found one, OP might have to reside to the same strategy and perhaps when the right time comes he can get really sweet deal with good warranty and save lots of cash as well :D
     
  17. Hoopsontoast

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    I am waiting / hoping that the next model (as mentioned maybe X121e) will be released here with the E-450. I did actually get an Asus Transformer tablet/notebook but i returned it as i think i will actually miss the functionality of a Windows based machine :)
    I have looked into the X220, and the price has come down a little to around £900 configured with the i3, 4gb Ram, 320gb 7200rpm, W7 Pro and the IPS display. Its just a lot of money atm that could be spent elsewhere (Car and actually living).
    The X12# series/range just seems perfect for a durable, portable laptop thats (should be) under £500 and not a netbook.
    If it was in the UK, with an E-450 and an 11.6 IPS display and came in just under £500 it would be just about perfect!
     
  18. jw8725

    jw8725 Notebook Geek

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    Just check, altogether I paid £374.65 GBP for this delivered to my door. There was VAT of £28 on it. The American keyboard is fine, I've set it to British standard and I can touch type so I don't need to look at the American style keys.
     
  19. Hoopsontoast

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    Ah that's not bad at all. Still not too keen on the American Keyboard. How does the warranty work? Cheers
     
  20. afhstingray

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    i'm primarily based in the uk but i still use american keyboards. the larger left shift key and elongated enter key does feel better than a UK keyboard.

    that said, i frequently use uk keyboards as well on other systems. i dont think you'll find it a big issue. you'll probably only have issues with @ and ' or " which you'll get used to after a while

    but other than that 374 ish quid is pretty good for a notebook like that, uk price wise.
     

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