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Thinkpad X1 Carbon & Windows 8

Discussion in 'ThinkPad Edge, X1, X100e/X120e, & SL/L' started by smoothunit, Sep 15, 2012.

  1. smoothunit

    smoothunit Newbie

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    Just spent the last few hours trying out Windows 8 on my new X1 Carbon. I did this via a full clean reformat. Below are a few tips to help out when going the same route.

    Lenovo Windows 8 Drivers (some are beta)

    Track pad driver Win 7 version works well, installs fine and makes use of gestures like swipe from edge. The trackpad is still sublime.

    Issues-

    Ericsson H5321 gw doesn't work though GPS does as evidenced in device manager. Windows 7 drivers are not compatible with Windows 8.

    Again, in device manager I'm stuck with an 'Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Embedded Controller' driver not being found and I don't think this is related to the Mobile broadband driver but maybe it is.

    No version of Thinkpad Vantage is available rendering the Thinkpad button useless.

    Wireless transfer seems a tad slow. I can get an easy 5MBS on every other device in the house.

    Battery life has actually been quite good with an easy 5 hours while installing, testing rebooting and mucking around. Please let me know how you all go and post back if you have any tips.
     
  2. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Windows 8 drivers are coming pretty soon. I would recommend everyone else waiting for a few more weeks.
     
  3. themouse

    themouse Notebook Consultant

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    I'm glad to hear that the battery life remains unchanged with Windows 8 on the x1. While I generally liked Windows 8 on my x220T, battery life noticeably suffered.
     
  4. rnauman821

    rnauman821 Notebook Enthusiast

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    My biggest curiosity is how much better the trackpad gets with win8 drivers.

    What have you noticed as far as boot time differences?
     
  5. steve8191

    steve8191 Notebook Guru

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    Smoothunit: What is the configuration of your X1 carbon? can you please comment on your overall impression and using experience?
     
  6. smoothunit

    smoothunit Newbie

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    My unit is a i5/8GB/256GB.

    The trackpad feels just as good as it did running windows 7 but now supports edge swiping.

    I've also worked out how to get Mobile Broadband working, using this guide and applying the techniques to installing the WAN drivers. Find the guide here..

    I've had no crashes, buggy behavior or any usability issues. I just need to get Thinkpad Vantage to work and I'm all set. Boot time is even quicker using UEFI only in the bios then installing Windows 8. I estimate no more than 20 seconds to get a usable browser.
     
  7. steve8191

    steve8191 Notebook Guru

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    THANKS! GREAT! Congrats! I have the same config. But mine won't be shipped until 2 weeks later (ordered Aug 23rd). Do you feel it is running fast besides booting speed... ENJOY!
     
  8. smoothunit

    smoothunit Newbie

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    Overall speed feels snappier than Windows 7, my main PC had felt like it had the same boost aswell. I'm loving Windows 8 sync features, makes setup a whole lot faster.
     
  9. zlrenner

    zlrenner Notebook Enthusiast

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    Cool undocumented Win8 feature for those that care (too much?) about battery life:
    Run "powercfg /batteryreport /output [filename]".

    It'll generate very detailed charts about every AC/Battery/Suspend/Resume action, and give stats on usage history, estimates, etc. Without going too much into detail, my overall estimate is 6:35, although I expect in actuality it's probably closer to 6.
     
  10. StrikeBack

    StrikeBack Notebook Enthusiast

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    It will also tell you if a program is screwing with sleep. hibernate and resume states. Awesome little tool.
     
  11. oxologic

    oxologic Newbie

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    Did you install using UEFI only? I used a thumbdrive to install Windows 8 Release Preview, but could only get it to work using Legacy only. Thereafter, I could start the installation for Windows 8 RP.

    If you used Legacy only, did your boot speed increased by using UEFI only? I just tried installing on my X1 Carbon, amazing speed for booting into Windows 8 apps page. 11.5 seconds from pushing the power button, without login.
     
  12. smoothunit

    smoothunit Newbie

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    From memory I installed using the default 'legacy first then UEFI'. Realising I stuffed up I then set the bios to UEFI only, wiped all partitions and installed again. Honestly I felt no real speed difference as it boots insanely quick either way.

    If you can be bothered give it a go.
     
  13. noxxle99

    noxxle99 Notebook Deity

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    The fast boot is in part because Windows 8 doesn't completely shut down by default. "Shut down" has been replaced with a hybrid form of hibernation. You can change this setting in control panel somewhere.
     
  14. chrisedwards

    chrisedwards Newbie

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    I just got my X1C Friday and have installed Windows 8 (from Technet). Boot time is insanely fast as has been noted, especially when you power on via fingerprint scanner as there is no login step and you go straight to start screen.

    A tip for those wanting to do a UEFI boot: You need to format the USB thumb drive with your windows install media on it using FAT32 or else you will not be able to boot to the USB drive under UEFI as UEFI does not support boot to NTFS. You should also set the boot to UEFI only in the bios to ensure that Windows 8 installs using UEFI boot mode.

    I used this to make bootable Windows8 USB media from an ISO: Microsoft Store Online

    UEFI seems to pass the boot process over to the OS faster from what I can see and looks a lot nicer than the BIOS boot (no ugly pixelated ThinkPad logo), but a nice crisp Lenovo logo instead.

    I'm still missing a few Windows 8 drivers, but most seems to be working from what I can tell, including GPS as tested with Bing Maps under Windows 8.
    You can follow Lenovo Windows 8 X1C driver releases here --> Lenovo Support - RSS Feed
     
  15. Thors.Hammer

    Thors.Hammer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Next gen UEFI is coming to some of the Thinkpads soon. I haven't seen which machines are going to get Windows 8 logos, support safe boot, connected standby, etc. I assume the clouds will part on or after 10/26.
     
  16. zlrenner

    zlrenner Notebook Enthusiast

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    Protip for those having trouble installing some of the drivers... a couple of the Win8 drivers are unsigned (I believe the "HID Radio Switch" driver and one of the WAN drivers), and would only install under the "disable driver signature enforcement" boot option. They now work fine, however. Just a tip if you're having issues.

    Also, was having slow hibernate/resume problems, but after switching to UEFI I'm having no issues. Might be a coincidence, but everything works perfectly now.
     
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    themouse Notebook Consultant

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    Does EE 3. work in Windows 8?
     
  18. creepinshadow24/7

    creepinshadow24/7 Notebook Consultant

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    Hi! I also recently installed Win 8 on my Carbon, but i can't seem to get WWAN to work. I tried with the guide, with the guide, the win 8 beta drivers, the win 8 drivers you can find under the regular software downloads and even the win 7 drivers but nothing seems to have made a difference, the device is still unrecognized in the device manager. Could you tell me exactly how you did it?
     
  19. chrisedwards

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    I ran into this and resolved it by making sure all previous WAN drivers were uninstalled before installing the latest Win8 Oct 22 drivers from Lenovo's site. Uninstall both from the Uninstall programs and go to device manager and manually uninstall ALL devices relating to the WAN card: com ports, usb serial devices, gps, other. Then install using the Win 8 drivers and you should be good to go.
     
  20. tech9

    tech9 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I installed the newest Intel WLAN drivers form intel.com and it worked perfect, lenovos drivers were kinda funky. Also I cannot get the on screen display to work, as well as power manager. I have tried the beta and non beta drivers. Its almost like something is blocking them to install.

    When I did an upgrade instead of a full install, everything was working (almost). Powermanager was crashing, and the on screen display took 3 installs for it to start working.

    Now I have UEFI + GPT installed and it seems great, except for the absence of power manager ;(
     

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