Thinking of Building an MSI 1013 - Comments?

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  1. Jumper

    Jumper Notebook Deity

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    So I've been looking for an Ultraportable laptop, something small and light that I can carry around without breaking my back. I have an old Toshiba Satellite 1805-S177, but the battery is shot, DVD drive is dying and it weighs 7.7lbs.. Time for something new.

    I've been thinking about getting the following:
    MSI 1013 12.1" WXGA - $662

    And the following from Newegg to finish the build:
    AMD Turion 64 MT-37 - $255
    Hitachi Travelstar 7K100 60GB 7200RPM - $153
    Corsair ValueSelect 1GB DDR400 SODIMM - $132

    Total - $1202

    About $200-300 less then a similarly configured 1013 from a reputable online reseller. There are some more sketchy places that might come within $100 of the price, but dealing with them might be more trouble then it's worth.

    The other thing I thought about getting was an Asus Z33ae, which would run maybe $1500-1900 from a good dealer, but is limited to 1GB of RAM max, has the soon-to-be-replaced Sonoma chipset, and has a lower resolution XGA screen. It also uses weird nano-SODIMMs that make building one myself difficult at best.

    I rarely break electronics, so I'm not too concerned about lack of a warrenty/accidental damage protection. Feel free to comment otherwise though.

    Anyone know about battery life on the 1013?
     
  2. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies TG Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I'd assume it would get about 2-3, maybe 3.5 hours on battery, considering that it uses the MT-Turion.

    If you want to build it yourself, sure, it will be cheaper, but you have the lack of warranty, etc...I know that would be a concern for me.

    Have you checked out the Compaq V2000Z? That is very similar to the MSI-1013 in specifications. You can get ~5 hours on that with the 12-cell battery. It will be about the same price as the MSI when similarly configured.
     
  3. Jumper

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    Wellll I'll admit I'm a bit biased against Compaq/HP. I'd prefer to avoid them... Also thats a 14" and I've pretty much decided on the 12" screen size.

    CPU, RAM, and HD all have manufacturer warrenties, as does the whitebook. I built my own desktop so I already have a good system for keeping track of all my original reciepts, UPCs, etc, in case a componant goes. As for accidental damage, none of the resellers I was looking at covers it anyway, and I wasn't planning on getting a Thinkpad or a Dell with their expensive accidental damage plans.

    The Z33ae does get 6-7 hours on its 9-cell battery ($115 extra) and maybe 4 on the internal batter (but 1.4lb or so lighter).

    However, I really prefer to do my own builds if at all possible. MSI's install guide is online and it seemed quite reasonable.
     
  4. ivar

    ivar Notebook Deity

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    In fact, it is not obvious that building it yourself will be cheaper, or significantly cheaper to compensate for the lack of warranty. It depends on how cheap you can get the components and if you are just a usual customer with no ascess to special internal offers, I think it's unlikely you will be able to beat the price of the ready laptop.
     
  5. Jumper

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    I checked all of the resellers listed on MSIs web site, and a few others selling rebadged units. I couldn't find a better price then building it myself anwhere. All those prices are straight off public places that I could order from right now.

    The one place that I found with a somewhat comperable price is CyberPower, which I have bought from in the past, but in recent months their resellerratings rating has dropped significantly and I don't think I would be comfortable buying a laptop from them. I'd rather deal with the componant manufacturers directly if something is defective. If I break something, well that's my fault anyway.
     
  6. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies TG Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Well, if you are comfortable building it yourself and don't mind the lack of warranty/support, then it sounds pretty good. Just be sure you know you want to do this - laptops can be difficult.

    Saving $200-$300 is pretty nice though. :D
     
  7. lotek

    lotek Newbie

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    the hardest part is popping off the plastic cover over the hinge..you essentially need to push 3 plastic tabs out of the way, at once..then pull up from the edges, which would ideally require about 5 hands. plus a 6th to stabilize the unit. im sure youll figure it out though. the second hardest thing was plugging in the wifi antennas, i guess youre supposed to have tiny fingers (you should throw in the intel 2200, its wort the $25 to add wifi!).

    i ordered from digitalhotbuy too (when it was $700). but they shipped fast and had good customer service, i only mention this beacuse my 1013 is still sitting here disassembled after 2 weeks since ComputerHQ lied about shipping a Turion (website said shipped, but they clearly didnt) and also lies about having it in stock..its worth the extra few bucks to get it from newegg!
     
  8. YouGiveMeRash!!!

    YouGiveMeRash!!! Notebook Guru

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    I ordered an MSI 1013 from Cyberpower recently. The total came out to $1,121.

    It hasnt arrived yet. The expected ship date is November 14th. (I ordered on November 1st).

    Hopefully all will go well.

    The reason I bought from Cyberpower even with the not so stellar reselleratings is because 1) They dont include their name or logo on the MSI 1013. It just says MSI like the factory one. 2) Price was reasonable 3) If you look at other huge resellers like Compaq, Dell, HP, Best Buy, Wal-Mart, etc.......they all have ratings of around 5 or lower. :rolleyes: Cyberpower is around a 7.4, so it isnt TOO bad.

    I know the tech support at cyberpower sucks, but I usually fix things myself, and I'm pretty sure I could get MSI to fix my machine with the international warranty if the screen or something on the actually chassis or mobo goes bad.

    Here are the specs:

    BATTERY: Li-Ion 8-Cell PACK, 14.4V x4400 mAh
    CPU: Mobile AMD Turion™64 MT-37 CPU @ 2.0GHz 1MB Cache Ultra Low Voltage 25Watt w/ HyperTransport Technology [+1185]
    CD: 8X DVD REWRITABLE DRIVE
    FREEGAME1: Free "Half-Life 2 Bronze" Download Coupon
    FLASHMEDIA: Built-In 3in1 Media Reader
    HDD: 60GB 7200RPM ULTRA ATA 100 HARD DRIVE [+76]
    MOTHERBOARD: ATI RX 480M + ATI SB 400 Chipset Mainboard
    MEMORY: 256 MB PC3200 400MHz DDR MEMORY [-20]
    NOTEBOOK: MSI MS-1013 Notebook 12.1" Glare WXGA 1280x800 Pixel w/ ATI Radeon Xpress 200M Video, Turion™64, & 802.11b/g Wireless NOTEBOOK_COVER: MSI MS-1013 Notebook Cover (PEARL WHITE Color)

    Total: $1,121.

    The only thing I need to really upgrade is the ram. I'm going to throw in another 512mb stick when the laptop arrives.
     
  9. orijin

    orijin Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    why does no one listen to my advice and not order from cyberpower? I REPEAT DO NOT ORDER FROM CYBERPOWER

    i had my experience with them and returned it to them to buy from another company. and cyberpower ratings are very low and have recieved many complaints filed thru the better business beraeu

    cyberpower techsupport isnt too bad but customer service is one of the worst i have dealt with when you are ordering and talking to them the way they are talking is like trying to get you not to buy from them.

    Laptoplogic.com join the forums and look for a man his user name is fords8 his real name is anthony.. he offers pretty decent prices on msi notebooks.. not as good as cyberpower but he ships his notebooks with seagate momentus while cyberpower ships their notebooks with 2mb cache western digital notebooks..

    so its your choice have a 8mb cache harddrive from seagate or an old harddrive from western digital.

    and i have been told by couple of people cyberpower use old parts in their systems. so i would back off if i was you.
     
  10. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies TG Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    Well orijin, some people have good experiences, some have bad. CyberPower does have very good prices, so I can understand why many people order from them. Rash purchased a great laptop for the money.

    It is good to post your comments, but please refrain from yelling...we're all just doing our best to help out here.
     
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