The ThrottleStop Guide

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  1. pressing

    pressing Notebook Deity

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    That is a popular issue from an excessive undervolt. Do a search and you will find others with aggressively undervolted 7700HQ with same problem.
     
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  2. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    @pressing - I think that is just an XTU feature. It can take a LONG, LONG time to reapply voltage settings after you boot up or resume. It takes so long sometimes that users think that it is not working. In some cases, maybe it is not working. You can sit and wait for XTU or you can run ThrottleStop. It immediately applies voltage settings upon start or resume. Once he gets TS set up correctly, he should have no problem using the same under volt that XTU sometimes gives him.
     
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    Serge_raccoon Newbie

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    woohooooo !! you are the best ))) Thank you very very much, it works now !


    doesnt matter what kind of settings i use with XTU, -50 or -150, most of times it survives reboot but every time i put laptop to sleep or hibernation the voltage is back to stock after wake up. i ive seen ppl solved that with scripts but i just dont want to mess with it. With TS i just need to keep it running in background and it always works fine and with my desired setting achieved its simply the best now !!!
     
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    Serge_raccoon Newbie

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    Tbh it looks more like a glitch for me. Ive discovered that voltage is back to stock in like an hr or so after i woke it up. So i assume it not just takes LOOONG it just doesnt work at all. I like XTU design , monitoring, built in stress test but main undervolting functionality is affected. TS is very simple and convenient, just set what you need, add autorun task and you are good in just a couple clicks.

    Looks like im 7700 undervolt record holder with -160. most of ppl stopped with 110-125. Ill make further testing during this week and will post if i had any stability issues with it.
     
  5. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    You are welcome. Now if I can just get everyone else to post some pictures when they are having problems. It makes it so much easier for me to find out what is going on.

    I was just trying to be nice to XTU. I keep thinking that they must have fixed that problem by now but it doesn't seem like it. XTU looks nice but it is not much use if you are never sure if your under volt has been applied or not.

    Now you will have to do some more testing. Can you set the Cache offset voltage lower in ThrottleStop and can you prove that it makes any difference in terms of heat or power consumption. A long time ago I tried to lock the CPU Core and CPU Cache adjustments together just like XTU does it and users promptly screamed at me. NO! Don't do it. Leave these separate, so I did. I think what is possible really depends on the CPU. I am not sure if all CPUs will benefit from lower Cache offset voltage but some sure seem to.
     
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    Serge_raccoon Newbie

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    after a hr of testing i dont see any noticeable temp drop with cache undervolting lower than cores. same 72-74C under load. dont listen to some nerds, just tether cache and cores voltage offset and we are good.
     
  7. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    I think it is just the HQ processors that have Core and Cache voltage linked together like Siamese twins. You might have to upgrade to a laptop with a K series CPU to take advantage of this feature.

    Another test would be to keep dropping the Cache offset voltage down to a crazy number like -250 mV or -500 mV. If your computer crashes with a BSOD, that confirms that it works. If your computer never starts again, it wasn't me that suggested you give this a try. Learning by trial and error can be a painful process. You might not notice any significant difference in temperature or power consumption if the cache is not that power hungry.

    I switched ThrottleStop over to a more modern version of Visual Studio today. Only found a few minor issues that have all been solved. It came together quicker than I thought it would. Should have done this years ago but I always avoid fixing things that are not completely broken.
     
  8. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKS = That sucks! Dont wast your $ on FILTHY

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    I have said this several times now... Why should I use features mostly intended for thin and flimsy? My last reply regarding this “amazing” feature.
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    And many many more than us. Not everyone jump on all sorts of power savings features. You have probably seen Fall update... Micro$haft changed power options in their cartoon OS to push people’s hardware on power saving... Mind you, They design and develope their newest OS more for own hardware, tablet/phones/thin and flimsy now, not for "real" computers.

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    Exactly(see above).
    Micro$oft follow the trend as well with their newest OS. Maybe because they design/develope own trash? And much more will come...
    Never seen this one before with (Fall Fail Update).
     
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    @unclewebb

    Regarding throttlestop support on HCC CPUs, there is currently a C0% issue that I am experiencing on my 7980XE and I see that the turboboost core counts are still stuck at 8. Is there any plans to update it to support up to 18 core CPUs? If there is, I would be more than happy to help with the process.

    Thanks
    Tgipier
     
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  10. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Thanks for the offer to help. I have no plans to buy a HCC system so I will not be updating ThrottleStop to properly handle these.
     
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