The ThrottleStop Guide

Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by unclewebb, Nov 7, 2010.

  1. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Prophet

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    So electricity will be expensive, correct? If you were in India the AC will be On everyday 24x7 because of high ambient as you are aware of. So, older Alienware still pack quite a pack.
     
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    Mr. Fox Undefiled BGA-Hating Elitist

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    Yes on the expensive electric bill. We are having solar power installed on our house this week, so that will help offset some of the cost. Yeah, Alienwares packed quite a punch before the BGA days.
     
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  3. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    @Serge_raccoon - When you are under volting with XTU and you set -170 mV, does HWiNFO report that correctly? Does the monitoring panel in the ThrottleStop FIVR window show that correctly? Can you post a screenshot of the ThrottleStop - FIVR window so I can have a look at your settings?

    @Papusan - Always great to see a CPU running like Intel intended it to run. All this throttling nonsense was added by Intel to keep individual manufacturers, Intel's corporate customers, happy. Full speed without any throttling or over heating. Amazing what is possible when a device is designed properly.

    @Vasudev - TS 8.50 is good until the end of next year so I have plenty of time to work on the next version. The Papusan and Mr. Fox editions are for their personal use. Maybe I will include an option for you so you can change the label on the Stop Data button and call it whatever you like. ThrottleStop has always included a wide variety of features based on user requests. I did not dream all this stuff up by myself.
     
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  4. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    I noticed that some of the latest versions of Windows 10 has a new feature. Various boxes in ThrottleStop will magically disappear.

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    If you see this happening, there is nothing I can do about it. ThrottleStop works fine in the official Windows 10 Fall Creator's Update so switch to that if you need ThrottleStop. The picture almost looks like Microsoft is going to start choosing what options you will be allowed to click on. Power Saving - Good, everything else - Bad.
     
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    Does that odd bug affects Creators update aka Redstone 2?
     
  6. Serge_raccoon

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    I have my acer nitro v15 for like 10 days and it works dead stable with any sorts of load with -160, daily use, games, prime95 + furmark. system doesnt ignore or reset anything , i set -160 and i see it in hwinfo during the day but once i reboot or put it to sleep its gone, i have to open XTU and reapply settings. it crashes instantly under load with -180 and becomes occasionally unstable with -170. ThrottleStop + task manager keep undervolting just fine but like you said, laptop ignores anything after -120 with TS. What i clearly see is that laptop cooling sys isnt efficient enough for that cpu+gpu, its pretty much flimsy and lightweight imho. with stock paste + voltage and prime + furmark both cpu and gpu hit 97-98 in like 2-3 min and then all the throttling is here. with -160 and conductonaut liquid metal upgrade both are around 83-86 after 30 min of stress testing, stable, no throttling at all. with just prime load on cpu i see 75-77 degrees which is roughly -20 degrees drop with undervolting and liquid metal ! cpu temp diff between -120 and -160 is around 2-3 degrees so id like to undervolt it as low as possible.
     
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    @unclewebb yes, both hwinfo and TS see the voltage set with XTU, i disabled turbo to avoid those jumps in voltage to see it easily and voltage drops when i go with XTC and just freezes at -120 point when i go with TS. more to say, i double checked that with 3 10 min cpu stress tests and can see 2-3 degrees difference in temp between -120 and -160. i didnt touch any settings in your program, everything is set by default, just checked unlock voltage box, set 250mv range and play within it.
     
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    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    @Serge_raccoon - As I said, post some pictures so I can start working on this problem you have found. A 2 or 3 degree difference during a stress test in a laptop is fairly insignificant.

    That bug started showing up after the Fall Creator's Update - Redstone 3. I jumped off the fast ring so I do not plan to test Redstone 4 until after it is released. There are a few programs besides ThrottleStop where the check box options have disappeared.
     
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    here you go.

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    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    @Serge_raccoon - When using ThrottleStop, the CPU Core and CPU Cache have to be set to the same value. Intel XTU sets these equally for you automatically. The advantage ThrottleStop gives you is that with some CPUs, you can set the CPU Cache offset lower than the CPU Core offset for some further power and heat savings. You cannot do that in XTU.

    Your third screenshot shows Core at -0.1602 while the Cache is offset to -0.1201. The CPU will ignore this setting because the Cache offset has to be set lower or equal to the Core.
     
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