The ThrottleStop Guide

Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by unclewebb, Nov 7, 2010.

  1. pantezuma

    pantezuma Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've tried that feature in the past. The thing is that with this laptop it only works after my computer has gone to sleep and woken up. You told me back before that this thing happens with some laptops.
    It's a great feature, anyway!
     
  2. Diversion

    Diversion Notebook Deity

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    @unclewebb i've been playing with the latest Throttlestop on a i5-1035G4 and it seems to support the undervolting just fine just reporting the clockspeed incorrectly.. If you want to leverage my machine for anything, let me know! My Ice Lake sample is pretty unstable after -65mv or so.
     
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    golovkin Notebook Enthusiast

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    [​IMG] Hello all, I want to share my today experience with TS. Month ego I installed TS on friend of mine Lenovo E540 because she told its running very hot which is true. Today I looked closer on her temperatures meanwhile by simply click OCing her tablet on 35x on all cores.
    WOW -This is big sotware achievement .. Anyway during TS bench temps bumped to 94C in 3 seconds with multi quickly decreased to 30x or 28x -:)
    The i7-4712mq is supposed run at 3300 MHz (1 core), 3200 MHz (2 cores) and 3000 MHz (3 or 4 cores) with limitted OC +2 bin - so is not 35 on all cores actually bit strange? I read some Dufus past project about OC by lowering microcodes on Haswel but it wason E cpu if I remmember correctly.
    This machine would be nice without its horrible throotling, I also noticed it hasnt PL locks toogled, so I could increse numbers howewer i wanted, Secondly I seen for the fist time TDP overcome limits, it was hitting over 40W.
    MY stupid question is, will undervolting figure out high temps? My point is repaste cpu and set TCC max to zero at bios is all I could play here. Sory for bad english and Enjoy TS

     
  4. moontear

    moontear Newbie

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    ThrottleStop 8.70.6 crashes Windows with a BlueScreen with Windows 10 Build 19013 - actually the BlueScreen stems from the RwDrv.Sys. The Windows Update for 19013 cannot be installed with ThrottleStop or that version of the driver. I guess the latest version of the driver can be obtained here: http://rweverything.com/changelog/ but that is also from 2017.

    I would not recommend using ThrottleStop with the newest Windows 10 Build (Insider Slow).

    Crash Dump details:
    STACK_TEXT:
    ffffec87`559565f8 fffff807`69e149df : 00000000`00000050 ffffffff`ffffffd0 00000000`00000002 ffffec87`559568a0 : nt!KeBugCheckEx
    ffffec87`55956600 fffff807`69c93276 : fffff807`6a724400 00000000`00000002 ffffec87`55956920 00000000`00000000 : nt!MiSystemFault+0x1e674f
    ffffec87`55956700 fffff807`69df0f20 : 00000000`00000103 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000009 00000000`00000000 : nt!MmAccessFault+0x366
    ffffec87`559568a0 fffff807`69c65c56 : ffffdb02`47637d90 fffff807`6a3ad019 fffff807`6a13ef00 ffff9584`6058ce20 : nt!KiPageFault+0x360
    ffffec87`55956a30 fffff807`85de10ac : ffffdb02`47637b30 ffff9584`4a99c890 ffff9584`43b57200 00000000`00000000 : nt!ObfDereferenceObject+0x26
    ffffec87`55956a70 fffff807`6a22b779 : ffff9584`43b57100 ffff9584`3ea9cc60 fffff807`6a724400 00000000`00000000 : RwDrv+0x10ac
    ffffec87`55956ab0 fffff807`69c3d205 : ffff9584`00000000 00000000`00000000 ffff9584`43b57100 ffff9584`00000000 : nt!IopLoadUnloadDriver+0xec879
    ffffec87`55956af0 fffff807`69d3eed5 : ffff9584`43b57100 00000000`00000080 ffff9584`3eab0040 000fa46f`b19bbfff : nt!ExpWorkerThread+0x105
    ffffec87`55956b90 fffff807`69dea46a : fffff807`64a40180 ffff9584`43b57100 fffff807`69d3ee80 00000000`00000000 : nt!PspSystemThreadStartup+0x55
    ffffec87`55956be0 00000000`00000000 : ffffec87`55957000 ffffec87`55950000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiStartSystemThread+0x2a


    SYMBOL_NAME: RwDrv+10ac

    MODULE_NAME: RwDrv

    IMAGE_NAME: RwDrv.sys

    STACK_COMMAND: .thread ; .cxr ; kb

    BUCKET_ID_FUNC_OFFSET: 10ac

    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: AV_INVALID_RwDrv!unknown_function

    OS_VERSION: 10.0.19013.1

    BUILDLAB_STR: vb_release

    OSPLATFORM_TYPE: x64

    OSNAME: Windows 10

    FAILURE_ID_HASH: {ae756325-cc7f-ed1f-de9c-cc341d0821f6}
     
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  5. Mr. Fox

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    Well, that is really unfortunate since almost every notebook manufactured today malfunctions using stock firmware without assistance from ThrottleStop to right all of the wrongs.

    I would recommend not using the latest Windows build for anyone that values having a system that is stable and doesn't malfunction. ThrottleStop is working great for me on 1909 and every prior version of Windows since ThrottleStop was first released. I cannot remember if I started using it on a system running WindowsXP or Vista, but it has always been a blessing to have it all these years. I cannot imagine not using it on my laptops at this point.

    Thanks for sharing the misery you have encountered on the Insider slow ring. Sorry to hear you found a bump in the road.
     
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  6. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    If the problem is being caused by the RwDrv.sys file then you can still use ThrottleStop. Just don't use the Disable and Lock Turbo Power Limits feature. This is the only thing that depends on that driver. Does the rest of ThrottleStop work OK?

    This is not the first time that Microsoft has nuked ThrottleStop in one of their Windows 10 preview builds. Thank you @Mr. Fox for confirming that ThrottleStop is working OK in Windows 10 - 1909.

    The good news is that I am looking into replacing the RwDrv.sys driver as well as the WinRing0 driver that ThrottleStop has successfully used for the last decade. I will find a way to keep the dream alive one way or the other. Laptops that can run at their full rated speed. What a concept!

    Edit - Just heard from a happy Lenovo owner. The new zero offset voltage option seems to have solved his problem with his Y540 - 9750H laptop randomly not resuming from sleep.
     
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  7. vorob

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    [​IMG]

    None of these options will work until I press Turn On, right? But why then Disable Turbo works even without enabling ThrottleStop? It makes no sense in terms of UI.
     
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    yrekabakery Notebook Virtuoso

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    Turn On/Off only affects the first 3 options--Clock Modulation, Chipset Modulation, and Set Multiplier.
     
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  9. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    :vbthumbsup:

    You are 100% correct. The Turn On - Turn Off button in ThrottleStop is a confusing mess. I do have plans to get that fixed up so it is much clearer. I just haven't got around to it yet. Procrastination issues.

    Here is the first ThrottleStop forum that I could find.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/s-xps-1645-throttling-info-and-updates.446193/

    It has a couple of pics of ThrottleStop 1.80 with a version of that button. Life was simpler back then. I have had to pack in a lot of extra features, for a lot of different Intel processors over the years without the UI becoming grossly obese.

    Almost time for the 10 year TS anniversary. Most users are happy with the results so they tend to forgive me for being UI challenged. Would you rather use XTU? Sure it looks nice but it doesn't always work, especially after resuming. That is not for me.
     
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    Wow, how time flies. Sure, 10 years is a long time in PC years, kind of like dog years. But, it feels like a blink of an eye to me. Congrats on the decade of unfaltering excellence, bro.

    XTU... Honestly, I don't even think that it looks that nice. Plus, it wastes way too much screen space and wastes CPU clock cycles/system resources because it is unnecessarily bloated. I really love how compact the ThrottleStop UI is. In a PC world overrun with bloated full-screen crap and big tiles, fat borders, pastel-colored puke and abusive over-use of white-colored themes, instead of tasteful icons and a compact UI, it is refreshing to have programs that do not look like worthless and disgusting UWP tablet-jockey rubbish. It's also nice that ThrottleStop just works. Can say as much for XTU. It used to be fairly reliable, but it's not any more. In that respect it has something in common with Windoze OS X app crap. Too many dependencies to be a good product. Portable apps that you can drag and drop any place you want them are really the only way to fly.
     
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