The rise and fall of Kaspersky?

Discussion in 'Security and Anti-Virus Software' started by Papusan, Sep 9, 2017.

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Will this be the fall for Kaspersky?

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  1. Papusan

    Papusan BGABOOKS = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    "In response to the report, Kaspersky called the accusations "meritless" and offered up a statement denying any collusion with the Russian government:

    "If these briefings are actually occurring, it’s extremely disappointing that a government agency would take such actions against a law-abiding and ethical company like Kaspersky Lab," Kaspersky said at the time. "The company doesn’t have inappropriate ties with any government, which is why no credible evidence has been presented publicly by anyone or any organization to back up the false allegations made against Kaspersky Lab.

    The only conclusion seems to be that Kaspersky Lab, a private company, is caught in the middle of a geopolitical fight, and it’s being treated unfairly, even though the company has never helped, nor will help, any government in the world with its cyber-espionage or offensive cyber efforts.""

    Kaspersky Lab Has Been Working With Russian Intelligence
    Emails show the security-software maker developed products for the FSB and accompanied agents on raids.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ab-has-been-working-with-russian-intelligence

    "Russian cybersecurity company Kaspersky Lab boasts 400 million users worldwide. As many as 200 million may not know it. The huge reach of Kaspersky’s technology is partly the result of licensing agreements that allow customers to quietly embed the software in everything from firewalls to sensitive telecommunications equipment—none of which carry the Kaspersky name.

    That success is starting to worry U.S. national security officials concerned about the company’s links to the Russian government. In early May six U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agency chiefs were asked in an open Senate hearing whether they’d let their networks use Kaspersky software, often found on Best Buy shelves. The answer was a unanimous and resounding no. The question, from Florida Republican Marco Rubio, came out of nowhere, often a sign a senator is trying to indirectly draw attention to something learned in classified briefings."
     
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  3. Papusan

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    As yoo remember... Similarly, China had the same feling about U.S aka Micro$oft :D

     
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  6. Mr. Fox

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    It's pretty crazy for the US and any of its allies to trust the Russians or Chinese with anything as sensitive as security software. We can add a few more countries to the list of never trust, but those two are at the top of the list, along with North Korea, Cuba, Iran and Iraq. That's about as intelligent as asking wolves to stand guard over the sheep. I thought it was pretty crazy and ironic to learn that the US Government was using Kaspersky software. They never should have entertained such a foolish notion in the first place. Getting along and making amends is a good thing. We are all citizens of the same planet. But, being stupid and naive is as much our fault as theirs; and probably even more our fault for thinking it was safe to trust a company from the former Soviet Union with any sensitive matters relating to national security.
     
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    So.,... Why are you guys running AV? I mean, I think that in 99.9% of situations viruses are not only obvious, but easier to remove manually than have something sanning your HDD all the time, and taking performance (?)
     
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    Mr. Fox Undefiled BGA-Hating Elitist

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    I am not. I haven't been for several years. I cannot answer for the behavior of others. To a large extent the need for it is a fabrication that exists to make money for the software peddlers offering it.

    Rightfully so. They should feel lucky to have any kind of trade with the US at any level. I'm not convinced that it was smart of us to allow it at any level. Forgiving is good and appropriate, and Godly. Unforgiveness will eat you alive. But, forgetting the past is stupid. We should learn from it and never allow any opportunity for repeat mistakes. When forgiveness requires forgetting, there are ulterior motives in play.
     
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    Israel hacked Kaspersky, then tipped the NSA that its tools had been breached
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...8ce774-aa95-11e7-850e-2bdd1236be5d_story.html

    "In 2015, Israeli government hackers saw something suspicious in the computers of a Moscow-based cybersecurity firm: hacking tools that could only have come from the National Security Agency.

    Israel notified the NSA, where alarmed officials immediately began a hunt for the breach, according to people familiar with the matter, who said an investigation by the agency revealed that the tools were in the possession of the Russian government.

    Israeli spies had found the hacking material on the network of Kaspersky Lab, the global anti-virus firm under a spotlight in the United States because of suspicions that its products facilitate Russian espionage."
     
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    Thank goodness they did, or else we would probably still be using Kaspersky spyware. Kudos to Israel for their due diligence and being our allies. When one government is hacking it is important for all of them to be. It begs the question of how intelligent it is to allow intelligence to be stored in a manner that is accessible to any entity that doesn't have an immediate need to access it. If it is going to be stored online, it should be on a sand-boxed network with no external network connections of any kind and require on-site hacking from inside a secured and heavily guarded limited access area. Then spies would have to place their lives on the line and live dangerously like the good old days. And, then there would be no use for the geeky hacks working safely from a desk on the other side of the planet.
     
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