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  1. Mikhail Perepelyuk

    Mikhail Perepelyuk Newbie

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    I understand that, but every review of this machine that I watched prior to purchasing said "Good thermals, no throttling" so I assumed that with a repaste it would be even better. I believe the thermals were just as high when I just played the game and not benchmarking...pretty disappointing. Not sure whether I should start tinkering with undervolting and purchasing coolers or just RMA it and get something else.
     
  2. LoneSyndal

    LoneSyndal Notebook Deity

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    The good thermals has always been in comparison to those in its class. If you do not wish to take it upon yourself to setup the machine to behave in the manner you want, the unit may not be for you. Usually if you want thermals and noise to be more mild, you would go the next class up in laptops. If you unlock the BIOS, make changes to undervolt, and play at settings with more focus on increasing performance efficiency and not visuals, you would get less heat.

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  3. Mikhail Perepelyuk

    Mikhail Perepelyuk Newbie

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    I understand that undervolting helps and am willing to do it, that's not my question - my question is if this type of temperature is normal out of the box or is something wrong with my particular machine, because if it is, I'd rather get it replaced than tinker with the settings.
     
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    This is normal, even on new machines from other brands no matter the class.

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  5. kshnandi

    kshnandi Notebook Consultant

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    Ideally, you are looking at temps capped out by 90C out of the box. I think the highest I have ever seen in my laptop without any tinkering is around 93-94C on the CPU. With proper mods, the temps can be brought down to around 82-85C.
     
  6. Shoehorn

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    Hello. Let me start by saying that I have the exact same model and your machine is not defective.

    Now then, the reason why the conversation so far hasn't gone anywhere is that you're only looking at temps. What repasting, undervolting etc does is allow the CPU to run at a higher frequency before hitting its thermal/power limit. Stating your laptop is hitting 90+C under a specific load, isn't as useful as "In this scenario the CPU is hitting 94° at 3.2GHz."

    I do own FH4 but can't recall my temps or frequency. I'll take a look over the next day or so. For now, let me use Cinebench R20 to illustrate what I said since I know those figures by heart at this point.

    With only bios tweaks that fool the power limit and no undervolt, R20 causes my cpu to reach the thermal limit at 3.2GHz. Repasted with liquid metal and undervolted, it still hits the same temps but it does so at 3.6GHz. With all the fun stuff done to it, my cpu can do the whole render at 3.9GHz and 88-89°C. These figures will change somewhat depending on ambient air temperature.

    Your original question is akin to asking why your new Ferrari isn't going 100MPH through your neighborhood. The harder you push your system, the hotter it gets until either thermal or electrical limits are reached. Period.

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    Shoehorn Notebook Enthusiast

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    How did your ram oc go? I have Bdie 2666 running at 3200 17 19 19 and no matter what speed/timings i threw at them, could not get below 10ns. Lowest I could get was 2933@15 15 15.

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    specialist7 Notebook Evangelist

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    Hahah tbh ive been lazy with my laptop tweaks, its been running everyday fine at 3200-18-18-18-38-500-1T
     
  9. Shoehorn

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    See if it'll run CL16. I've been curious about the latency plateau since I bought mine last year. Gskil and corsair have 4x8GB 4000MHz (cl 18 and 19, respectively) sodimms now. Cant imagine they'd post with that profile in the gs

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    After giving this laptop a lot of crap when it had the 2080MQ... this 2060 variant doesn't have as many complaints and the display is far better than the initial 8S. Still fine tuning the temperature controls so it runs with very mild noise (almost perfect on The Division 2. On Escape From Tarkov, it almost makes no noise).
     
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