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  1. LowDUB

    LowDUB Newbie

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    Thank for your help, just ordered it along with a 1tb 970 evo, I've never worked on a laptop before. Hopefully all goes well
     
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  2. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    It is easy but be careful/mindful with surrounding components.
     
  3. Y060N

    Y060N Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello everyone - I'm wondering if you can help me out and give me a little bit of insight into what settings I might need to adjust. I had purchased a MSI GS65 Stealth-483 (240Hz, nVidia RTX 2060 GPU 6GB GDDR6, 9th Gen Intel) from GentechPC. I got the Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut applied on CPU and GPU and got the thermal pads as well.

    While the GPU is running pretty nicely (81C max in Overwatch), the CPU seems really hot. I do both video editing and play games and haven't tested much with video rendering but playing the first game of Overwatch on the laptop, I am getting 100C CPU under load, which is causing a lot of stutter in-game and honestly makes it pretty unplayable for me.

    I don't know a ton about undervolting or adjusting settings, but can anyone let me know if:
    • This kind of temperature is normal? (from what I read in this thread, most people are seeing around 93C under load on stock)
    • What kind of settings I can apply to adjust these temps?
    I've attached a screenshot for reference, I took it after I exited the game after playing the first (and only) game of Overwatch on it.

    I appreciate any help or insight you can provide!

    Edit: For reference, I am in a room with ambient temp of about 24C.

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  4. kshnandi

    kshnandi Notebook Consultant

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    Your heatsink is probably not seated correctly since some of your cores are at high 70s and others at high 90s. But it doesn't seem to be a case of bent heatsink either. I think the paste hasn't been applied properly. You should ideally be seeing max temps of 92-93C on CPU package and 75-77C on GPU (mostly at around 72C).

    In terms of undervolting, drag the slider to around -130mV in voltage offset to start with and keep lowering it by 5mV after stable runs of TS bench on Throttlestop.

    You can also try undervolting the GPU via afterburner by modifying the vf.
     
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  5. Y060N

    Y060N Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you for replying. I had e-mailed Ken@GenTechPC and he had said that 100C is normal with the Kryonaut applied because it's not a good paste for the thin heatpipes in the GS65 (I wish they would have told me this on purchase, since I had to wait 10 business days). I had also asked if the paste might have been applied incorrectly because I thought the same thing, but he assured me that he "can repaste 10 times with Kryonaut and the result will be the same."

    He said I can return it and he can apply liquid metal to the laptop (I'd have to pay for shipping, wait about 10 business days again) and that should put me at 92-93C under load. It just seems weird to me because everyone I see on stock machines have around 93C anyway, so what's the real point in liquid metal if it's just going to take the temps down to what the stock laptop is already running (stock seems to run cooler than what I have with Kryonaut)?

    I read into and tried undervolting -125mV and disabled turbo boost, anything higher seems to freeze the laptop. It's definitely improved on temps, but they're still running 94-95C under load.

    Would a GPU undervolt make much difference? The temps on the GPU seem pretty good at 81C under load.
     
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  6. Qwaarjet

    Qwaarjet Notebook Deity

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    I've undervolted and capped my multiplier max at 35x when all 6 cores are under load.I haven't changed any GPU settings (2060). Fan setting is on default, in performance mode it does make a few degrees difference but I don't like the noise.

    To replicate your scenario, my PC room temp is also 24C. I played one round of Overwatch quick play (mainly max settings - FPS capped at 144). game lasted 11 minutes.
    Modifications: Repasted with Phobya NanoGrease Extreme and replaced thermalpads with Fujipoly pads. I use an elevated laptop stand on top of a bench to make it a standing desk and props up the laptop a little to improve airflow.

    Average temps are CPU: 70ish (cores range from 66-73) and GPU: 69.
    Max Temps: CPU mid-80's (core range 73-86) and GPU 76.
     
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    Y060N Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you very much for providing a bit more information for me and I really appreciate you trying to replicate my scenario. Would it be possible to take a screenshot of your Throttlestop settings so I can get a better understanding? I'm honestly am a noob when it comes to undervolting - I've never done it before as I haven't needed to, so I just want to make sure that all my settings are correct.

    Based on what I read, I had gone into the power settings and set the CPU max to 99% (I read this stops turbo boost). I kept everything else default on Throttlestop and made both the CPU and CPU Cache undervolted by -125mV.

    I read that I'm supposed to uninstall the Dragon Center if I'm undervolting but others said they hadn't, so I'm not sure if it's overriding some settings or if it conflicts with Throttlestop. I have a custom fan curve on Dragon Center, but it's very similar to the auto settings anyway.

    My multiplier used to read 45T but after I made the CPU max 99% it shows the multiplier at 26.
     
  8. Inverhyt

    Inverhyt Notebook Enthusiast

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    I haven't found anything against dragon center further than that one post. I don't like it because it's clunky and silent fan replaces it all for me, but if you absolutely need something from it I haven't seen much evidence that it's going to hurt anything.
     
  9. Y060N

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    Thanks for letting me know. I thought it was pretty clunky too but people say Dragon Center throttles. I went ahead and uninstalled it and installed Silent Option instead. Still wondering if I have the correct settings on Throttlestop.
     
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  10. stranula

    stranula Notebook Consultant

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    Regarding the mobile RTX GPUs in the GS65, has anyone determined what successfully allows for flashing different vBIOS? On the 1070 version it was pretty much size dependent, but from what I am seeing on this thread, the RTX roms are 1,023 KB which would open up the possibilities greatly for flashing other vBIOS. I've read through all of the posts mentioning vBIOS, and see people having success with some 90W flashes, but nobody showing greater than that. Also, I've only seen mention of 2080 cross flashes, but not seeing the performance differences. I'm currently considering if I want to upgrade to the new GS65, but trying to decide which one to get. If anyone can share which vBIOS they've used and on which GPU, I would appreciate the info so that I can look into this further.
     
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