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  1. thefatapple

    thefatapple Notebook Geek

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    anyone getting very unstable frametime spikes with silent option? basically, after a while frametimes become incredibly unstable and restarting silent option fixes it. tested games: apex, overwatch, csgo. the problem doesnt even appear by closing silent option and not using it at all before gaming
     
  2. xLima

    xLima Notebook Evangelist

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    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34880071 - 90W VBIOS
    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34345569 - 80W VBIOS

    https://1drv.ms/f/s!ArgNvCzXGkEXylrfp8LdSazt0iYi - ASUS STRIX II 90W RTX2060 VBIOS

    Pre-Flash MSI GS65-8SE 80W: https://1drv.ms/f/s!ArgNvCzXGkEXyFSnHssiX7pAx9XV
    Asus Strix II 90W GPU-Z: https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArgNvCzXGkEXyls0gqi-N0_sbjdP
    Post-Flash MSI GS65-8SE 90W: https://1drv.ms/u/s!ArgNvCzXGkEXymFe58MnaE8rQ8zn

    @hackness 's guide to flashing http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...cussions-lounge.815216/page-365#post-10885646

    As you can see, the GPU-Z stats change, memory manufacture and subvendor stays the same (according to hardware specifications of card, regardless of what GPU the VBIOS comes from)
     
  3. laisanity2000

    laisanity2000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    how does the 2060 config and 2070 max q compare?
    the 2060 is the normal one right?
    how do these laptops compare?
     
  4. xLima

    xLima Notebook Evangelist

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    I feel the 2070 isn't worth it. I would either go 2060 (improvements is minimal compared to 1070 - Spec/benchmark/hardware wise - , BUT improved cooling and chassis rigidity) and not insanely expensive. Or 2080 for the noticeable improvement in performance.
     
  5. laisanity2000

    laisanity2000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah that's what I thought too.
    I saw the benchmarks and didn't seem like it was too much improvement since 2060 is using the normal 2060 card (I think)
     
  6. xLima

    xLima Notebook Evangelist

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    It’s a mobile 2060. It 80W or 90W, desktop 2060 is 180W.


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  7. Hyp3rSoniX

    Hyp3rSoniX Notebook Guru

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    GSync is ngreedia stuff. Freesync is opensource (I think) and is AMD stuff. Adaptive Sync is what both technologies essentially are. For Gsync to work, your GPU needs to be directly connected to the monitor. As we know, this is not the case with our GS65 Devices. There was a rumor that our displays might get licensed by Nvidia and therefor we could activate GSync through the Bios (that would turn off the Intel GPU) but I neevr heard anything about that anymore. Since the 2k19 GS65 edition also didn't get anything i this direction, I think it's safe to assume that we wont ever get Gsync support for our built in Displays.

    But you can still use GSync and Freesync on externally connected Displays. But this works only on the displayport at this time, since Nvidia doesn't support Freesync over HDMI (yet?).

    As far as I understand, if you for example have a 144hz monitor but play a game with lets say 80fps, the monitor will... 'sync' to 80hz so you don't get tearing. Otherwise it would want to refresh 144 times a second, but only have 80 pictures to work with. This explanation of course could be totally wrong though so better just look it up.

    So in short, our built in displays (now) support neither Gsync nor Freesync. But since our ports are directly wired to the dGPU, you can connect displays supporting either technology.
     
  8. zheez

    zheez Newbie

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    I'm in two minds about mine at the moment. I've got a GS65 8SE with an RTX 2060. On the one hand I really like the specs, performance, size etc but on the other there's a few niggles I've got with it.

    1). When I use it on my lap the casing seems to sag a bit in the middle, between the two screen hinges. It's fine if it's on a flat surface like a table though, but it does make me wonder how much it's causing the PCB to flex inside and what effect that will have on it over time and with continued heat cycles.

    2). I can always hear a fan. Even at idle I can hear a slight whine coming from it with the fan at ~2600rpm and I don't believe it's possible to slow it down any further. It's not unbearable by any means but it's just a slight noise that's there.

    3). My touchpad seems to have any issue. If I press it lightly it sort of feels like a slight click, but it actually isn't. That means to do an actual click I have to do what feels like a two tiered button press, a bit like a full force touch click on a MacBook Pro with pressure sensitive touchpad and it just doesn't feel right.

    Anyone else have any these issues? The touchpad seems the weirdest to me as I'm sure I didn't notice it at first, I think it's something that's developed after a couple of days.
     
  9. Ekami

    Ekami Notebook Enthusiast

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    I didn't notice that on my side. It's fairly robust and stable.

    You can customize your fan speed in dragon center: Put the fan speed to "advanced" and customize it to put the fans at 0% on the first slider. I managed to make my unit 100% silent on battery by also tweaking the Windows power options. Create a custom plan and then configure the "Processor power management" as follow:
    - Minimum processor state - On battery: 60%
    - System cooling policy - On battery: Passive
    - Maximum processor state - On battery 98% (here it's interesting because if you put it to 99% or 100% you'll notice a very low coil whine noise from the CPU, putting this setting to 98% will allow you to not hear it and at the same time that won't degrade your user experience on battery. Even putting it to something like 92% or 95% degrades my user experience on battery and I can feel the OS slowdowns). Maybe it's just my unit but give it a try if you have a coil whine noise coming from your unit too, it's actually not the fans.

    You can probably configure it so you can make a tap to click. I didn't notice any issues so far (excepted that I find the trackpad being too large and the palm detection not always working reliably)
     
  10. Hyp3rSoniX

    Hyp3rSoniX Notebook Guru

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    Why do you put your min processor state on battery to 60%?
    Wouldn't that just waste battery power, since your cpu will always try to be at 60% performance minimum?

    I put my min states for ac and battery to 0% and never had any problems ._.
     
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