***The MSI GS60 Ghost Pro 970M Owner's Lounge***

Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by charliex3, Oct 7, 2014.

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  1. Derek712

    Derek712 Notebook Virtuoso

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  2. aqnb

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    Not sure where are you getting this from?

    I have found only one thorough review of Acer Aspire V15 Nitro and there temperatures are not that great, actually worse than MSI GS60 with GTX 860M (which was BTW Kepler version, so hotter than Maxwell version used in Acer):

    Acer Aspire V15 Nitro (GTX 860M Maxwell)

    - max outside chassis temperature: 60.5 C
    - max keyboard temperature: 47.3 C
    - max CPU temperature: 98 C
    - max GPU temperature: 84 C

    Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition

    MSI GS60 (GTX 860M Kepler)

    - max outside chassis temperature: 60 C
    - max keyboard temperature: 37 C
    - max CPU temperature: 80 C
    - max GPU temperature: 76 C

    MSI GS60 - benchmark.pl
    Review: MSI GS60 2PC Ghost - Laptop - HEXUS.net - Page 2
     
  3. needgoodlaptop

    needgoodlaptop Notebook Enthusiast

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    Your Nitro temperatures are fine, but the GS60 ones contradict several other reviews. The chassis is reported to get as hot as 78 Celsius and the GPU can hit over 90 Celsius under load.
    And if you average the Nitro chassis temperatures under load in the review you linked, it's around 41.3 Celsius. The GS60's average was 57 Celsius according to Notebookcheck.
    The Nitro V17's average chassis temperatures under load, by contrast, is at 36.6 Celsius, owing to the larger cooling system.
    And then there are the many complaints about how insanely hot the GS60 gets. But that's subjective.

    MSI GS60 Ghost Pro 3K Edition (2PEWi716SR21) Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews
    Acer Aspire V17 Nitro (VN7-791G-759Q) Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews
    MSI GS60 Ghost Pro 3K Review & Rating | PCMag.com
     
  4. aqnb

    aqnb Notebook Evangelist

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    I see where you made a mistake - you confused different notebook models, your links are for super hot 3K GTX 870M version of MSI GS60 and then also 17" Acer Nitro V17 not 15" version Acer Nitro V15 ;)

    You need to compare apples-to-apples - 15" 1080p versions with GTX 860M. These are reviews what I posted.

    Acer is really not all that great, it's just that there weren't many reviews for it, and most of them weren't thorough.

    MSI on the other hand got reviewed quite a lot, and there were several different models with very different temperatures - 1080p GTX 860M version was actually quite cool, then 1080p GTX 870M was hotter but still kinda survivable and finally 3K GTX 870M was the one that was super hot.

    And now this new MSI GS60 version - 3K with GTX 970M - is pretty cool, according to Xentar712's review about 10 C cooler than GTX 870M version.
     
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    There's only one review of the GS60, 1920x1080 version with chassis temperature measurements - the one you linked. The same review also lists high temperatures under the cons section at the top. That's because the bottom gets as hot as 60 Celsius. I am very doubtful of the chassis load temperatures recorded there (average 33 Celsius), because the average temperature for the 870M, 3K version is about 23 Celsius higher (56 Celsius). But, there could be a non-obvious answer.

    You have to account how damn loud the fan is on the GS60, which is noticeably absent from the review you linked, but has been reported to be as high as 65 dB on the 970M version. On the other hand, the V17 Nitro's cooling is almost silent maxing out at 43 dB. There aren't any citable measurements for the V15 in the review you posted, but it's pretty clear the Nitro has a much quieter fan.
     
  6. grandfinale

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    Why in the world are you comparing a 15" laptop with a 17" one... of course the 17" is going to be cooler or run quieter in most circumstances. It's bigger and has more leeway. You ask him to account for all these things, yet you can't seem to account for the difference in laptop size.
     
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    This may be the wrong place for me to put this, I got my shiny new gs60 on Thursday an upgrade from my Alienware M14x R2. I love it, easily my favorite laptop I have ever owned. Has anyone had any strange stalling? Its almost like the CPU is pegged at 100% and I lose all input until it recovers, however the CPU is never pegged out and ive seen anywhere from 3%-30% when this is happening. I am using the factory install and the latest nvidia driver 344.24 for the 970m. I was trying to hold off donig a fresh windows install until my bigger m.2 SSD and 2133Mhz memory. I guess my query is has anyone with the new GS60 2QE Ghost Pro with the 970m had any wierd stalling phenomenon?

    Kaldon
     
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    zxaceofspadexz Notebook Enthusiast

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    yeah pls use similar sized laptops for comparison. of course the larger laptop will be fitted with better cooling and ventilation systems as compared to the smaller sized msi hence the 17 inch acer is bound to run quieter than the 15 inch msi... and also acer isnt a very good laptop brand to go for and i have doubts about their quality control. also their experience in the gaming laptop field isnt that renowned as compared to msi.
     
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    Isn't GS60 supposed to hold just 18xxMHz RAM? And not overdoing it with 2000+ ?
     
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    You know what? Rather than arguing with you guys about laptop size and graphics cards and display resolution, I'll provide a little list with temperatures and fan noise with the specifications of each laptop listed. Then, you can draw the conclusions you want.

    Average chassis temperature under load
    MSI GS60, 2880x1620, 870M: 56.7 °C
    MSI GS70, 1920x1080, 870M: 54.8 °C
    Acer Nitro V17, 1920x1080, 860M : 36.6 °C

    Max fan noise
    MSI GS60, 2880x1620, 870M: 51.4 dB
    MSI GS70, 1920x1080, 870M: 50.8 dB
    Acer Nitro V17, 1920x1080, 860M : 43 dB
    MSI GS60, 2880x1620, 970M: 65.3 dB
    MSI GS70, 1920x1080, 970M: 58.7 dB

    Sources: NotebookCheck for the 860M and 870M models
    MSI GS60 GhostPro 3K / GS70 Stealth Pro Review w/ GTX970M - YouTube for the 970M models

    I know I'm criticizing an MSI product in an MSI thread, so of course the MSI fans are providing backlash. But I'm not biased toward any company. I only look at the reviews and benchmarks of products. I can believe Acer has decided to make a good product as much as MSI has.
     
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