The most pointless eGPU ever created

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  1. Danishblunt

    Danishblunt Notebook Prophet

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    Ever wanted an eGPU that where the GPU is soldered into the case? No? Well then this will be your absolute nightmare! :'D

    Upgrade your vega to RX 580 in 2018...Wait what?

    No worries, at least youll get like 60% of the RX 580 card when connecting the eGPU and will barely be usable nor supported by anything.

    Yay go apple. Makes dreams come true.
     
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  2. Arrrrbol

    Arrrrbol Notebook Evangelist

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    Not sure why anyone would expect any less from Apple. They overtook BMW years ago as the kings of engineering arrogance: soldered GPUs came first, then soldered CPUs, then soldered SSDs, now soldered RAM and so on. The only reason why you'd solder any of those components is to prevent people from upgrading or replacing them in the event of failure - its a purely greed based decision. When all of their crappy engineering "solutions" eventually fail Apple will also deny it is their fault for as long as possible (butterfly keyboards for example). Other manufacturers are not much better with their BGA ebola, but Apple take it to a new level. And, sadly, Apple get away with this crap because of the fanboy cult which follows them - though I am starting to notice long term Apple users turn away from them in increasing numbers.
     
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    The same thing happens in every sector. Take Gibson guitars for example. Took out the real way of wiring a guitar with pots and switches and now use circuit boards. PURE JUNK. Then they charge a huge premium for the name.
     
  4. electrosoft

    electrosoft Tick Tock Clarice....

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    In Apple's defense (what there is), this was designed as a great USB-C breakout hub for the LG 5k display. It also provides the Macbook with full power and it is close to dead silent under load while matching the aesthetics of the Macbook.

    Ironic, since any game worth it's salt or program that uses the CPU will have the Macbook providing MORE than enough noise. :)

    Price is stupidly high and performance is, well, an RX 580. (!)

    And as noted, zero upgrade factor...
     
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    brruno Newbie

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    The RX 560X is not VEGA , its Polaris.
    Its basically a 2y old GPU, that even at launch wasn't that great..

    But yeah, Apple keeps using that because its cheaper, so they can make more money.
     
  6. Danishblunt

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    Was talking about the vega options they have in some systems and only way to "upgrade" is by using the eGPU, which would be a downgrade, making this whole thing even more hilarious. It's like apple trying to make you not have performance.
     
  7. iMbaQ

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    Not quite, the reason things went soldered wasn't to stop people upgrading - I think the vast vast majority of people just don't upgrade their computers - we would be in the <1% of those who may do so, so they won't go after us.

    The reason is two fold. One, it makes the assembly cheaper, much cheaper. There is actually better reliability on soldered parts, meaning again cheaper assembly (as less fail QC). Secondly, it allows for things to be made more portable.

    I agree however there are a lot of negatives as a result, like many I would prefer at least not to have my SSD soldered. Although the computers are now more reliable being soldered, it is countered by the fact that if something should go wrong, you have to now replace the whole board. So in the end, was it worth it? I don't think so but it is what it is.

    As for the BlackMagic GPU, it can't really be compared to say a Razer Core X with a RX580. It can't be upgraded due to it's propriety nature - and it's propriety nature is what allows it to be smaller while having good cooling - infact it is far quieter than if you DIY'd the same dGPU with a separate e-GPU enclosure. I do think they have missed a HUGE trick by not doing it to the Vega 56/64 GPU'S, the RX 580 isn't worth it.
     
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    Ask owners of 2011/2012 MBPs how that's worked out for them.
     
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    Hint: It didn't

    -Former 15" MBP 2011 owner
     
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    That was down to poor soldering which couldn’t cope with heat changes. The process of soldered components is more reliable than socketed - but that doesn’t excuse poor workmanship. Apple have made many poor decisions over the years on various aspects - however we shouldn’t blame a valid engineering and design technique for the issues, but Apple alone.

    It would be no different if they didn’t solder it but didn’t provide adequate cooling and let the card fry.

    There are dozens of laptops with soldered Gpu’s which don’t suffer like the 2011/2012.
     
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