The elusive 32gb DDR4 sodimm chip for MSI P65 creator

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  1. Joedoewoe

    Joedoewoe Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just purchased the 8RF-442n and was cought off-guard when I saw 32gb 2400mhz pieces being offered to bring the MSI to a 64gb max. So, after much digging(through these forums, asking HIdevolution directly, ect...) I learned that indeed MSI pops 32gb max (16x2) on their website only because 32gb sodimm’s do not exist yet. That Samsung is the only company(that I know of) producing them. Further, that these sticks are supported in the P65 with no issues.

    Finally, I’m again at a loss, because I CANT FIND THE CHIP ON THE ENTIRE INTERWEBS FOR SALE. Not even an icon that states out of stock. I would just pay HIdevolution to install their in store stock, but I can’t afford/wanna make sure I truely need the 32gb sticks first. Still, I’m curious if anyone knows what is up with these elusive 32gb Samsung DDR4 SO-DIMM ram memory sticks!
     
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    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    I ran across something about the Samsung 32GB SO-DIMMs about a month ago. However, like you, I've not yet to see any for sale on any of the hardware sites where I purchase tech - US based sites. I just don't know if it is publicly or generally available in the North American market at this time.

     
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    Joedoewoe Notebook Enthusiast

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    That was my hunch. But, how can ALL US VENDORS spontaneously not have it (or display out of stock) unless they were contracted to not present it. There are a lot of vendors and that’s a very large coincidence. So this leads me to me next question.
    What did run across?
     
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    IIRC, it was a post that someone asked if one of the Clevo models would support a Samsung 32GB SO-DIMM. I ran a quick scan, and can't find that post, but it is here somewhere in an NBR post.

    It surprised me as I thought that 16GB / module was the max at this time.

    In regards to what I found in general were these:

    - https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/insights/news-events/the-industrys-first-32gb-ddr4-sodimm/
    - https://www.anandtech.com/show/12824/samsung-unveils-32-gb-ddr42666-sodimms-based-on-16-gb-ics
     
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    Joedoewoe Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oh, I was assuming you had some clever insight on some devious contractural action placed by Samsung onto vendors. Clearly that is what’s happening here. The product is purposefully being withheld to accommodate sales of another in the US. Since only Samsung produces it, they don’t feel pressured by competitors to release it.

    That bugs me as a consumer, but it’s their right I suppose.
     
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    Joedoewoe Notebook Enthusiast

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    For ANY OTHERS in the US having issues:
    Samsung 32GB 2666MHz SODIMM M471A4G43MB1-CTDD0

    Enter this entire unit ID into search bar, I found international sellers like ram city.
    P.S: 803$ Per card at time of this posting
     
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    Joedoewoe Notebook Enthusiast

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    I want to add a further update just in case anybody is reading this thread. I was wrong about it being Samsung's "right" to slow production to jack up prices. I was correct in that is what they are doing, but they were apparently actively fixing prices with two other major companies: Hynix, and Micron. This is scandalous and YOU SHOULD NOT PAY 800$ FOR A CARD THAT HAS BEEN ILLEGALLY JACKED UP IN PRICE. Don't support that activity by paying 800$ for their ram.
     
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    Starlight5 So what if I'm crazy? The best people are.

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    @Joedoewoe they have been fixing prices for years, as well as creating artificial shortages to ramp em even higher up and further cash in.
     
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    @Starlight5 I didn’t know that until today. Gold star to me for being able to deduce that myself and be right. ;)
     
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    Update: I ordered 1 for around 320$. Hopefully it’s compatible with the 16gb Samsung 2666mhz. So I’ll have 48gb for 3D rendering. 1 16gb + 1 32gb both at 2666 from same supplier. I’ll update again when it’s installed to verify they are indeed compatible.
     
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