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The best simultaneous dual-band wireless n router?

Discussion in 'Networking and Wireless' started by The Dave, Nov 22, 2009.

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  1. The Dave

    The Dave Newbie

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    Tryng to find the best simultaneous dual-band wireless n router for my home network since my old belkin is starting to go.

    I've been looking around the net for a few days and i dont think i want to go with either the Linksys WRT610N or the D-Link DIR 825 after reading countless bad reviews about frequent dropouts, firmware problems, poor range etc.

    At the moment the Netgear WNDR3700 seems to be my best bet but still a couple of poor reviews out there for it (same with any product though i suppose).

    Anyone got any better ideas?

    On my network i will have 1 pc and 1 printer wired to the router and 1 pc (wireless g), 2 laptops (both wireless n with 1 being used for gaming) and an xbox360 connected wirelessly, if thats any help.
     
  2. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    There are, as you noted, bad reviews about all of them. I think you've got it covered with what you have seen so far. I'd probably opt for the D-Link myself as its ratio of positive to negative reviews seems a bit better.

    Or, wait until the technology matures.
     
  3. jerry66

    jerry66 Notebook Deity

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    Since I have a Linksys WRT 600-n , wrt 610-n , D-link 825 and a Netgear WNDR 3700 I can say the 3700 is the best of the lot .

    5 wireless , 1 wired COMPUTERS , 1 X-Box , 1 NAS , 1 Blu ray player . X-box and Blu ray plugged into D-link DAP 1522 bridge/AP
     
  4. The Dave

    The Dave Newbie

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    Thanks guys, think i'll opt for the 3700. From reading reviews and such online, and jerrys recommendation, the 3700 seems to be the best of the bunch.

    I could wait for the tech to mature, but since i need a new router anyway i may aswell give it a try. If there are any problems, i can always take it back.
     
  5. johnw91498

    johnw91498 Notebook Consultant

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    You probably don't want to hear this, but...

    I tried out the Netgear 3700. Got it based on reviews from Amazon, Newegg, and a few other sites.

    Easy set up and was up and running in 20 minutes. Fired up the PS3 to play some Modern Warefare 2 and the network was stable for about an hour. Dropped and I had to reboot. Stable again for an hour and again had to reboot. Next, the connection only lasted about 30 minutes. After that, I packed everything back up and returned it to Fry's.

    Based on the sales guy recommendation, I got the D-Link 655. Up and running in about 30 minutes. Fired up the PS3 hoping there'll be no problems. I played Modern Warefare 2 for over 5 hours with no drops.
     
  6. Kayless

    Kayless Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've had great luck with D-Link too.
     
  7. The Dave

    The Dave Newbie

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    Yes but it only supports 2.4ghz. I wanted a true dual band router so i could have g running on one band and n on another at the same time. If my understanding is correct, if i have it running on mixed mode on one band my wireless n products will only run as fast as my wireless g products. Or have i got it all wrong?
     
  8. jerry66

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    PS3 is G band no ? , I have a ps3 , an xbox and blu ray running through a dap1522 bridge and have not rebooted in 3 weeks , between DL and transfers have put over 1 Tbof data through the 3700 with no hiccup .
    And Dave you got it right
     
  9. johnw91498

    johnw91498 Notebook Consultant

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    Dave,

    The other band is the 5ghz, but it is quite limited. When I tried to connect my PS3 to the 5ghz band, my signal was less than 5%. Unless the component is very close, you'll get a very weak signal with constant drops.

    Jerry,

    I'm not sure why the Netgear 3700 didn't like my set up. I have a very basic network, but I couldn't keep a stable connection. Also, my wife does vpn 3 days a week and the 3700 doesn't do vpn pass through very well. That was a huge deal breaker.
     
  10. aidil

    aidil Notebook Evangelist

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    WNDR3700 is currently one of the best wireless routers to get. Another option is WRT610N version 2.0. But for this one, be sure to get the version 2.0, since it has solved problems of the version 1.0. And if it's true that this version 2.0 uses the same chip as WRT320N, then its 5GHz band - 40 MHz channel downlink throughput might outperform WNDR3700, just as WRT320N do (at least according to smallnetbuilder).
     
  11. The Dave

    The Dave Newbie

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    That is my main concern with getting a dual band router, the range on 5ghz. Should i be expecting to get a decent signal say, on the same level about 30ft away and through 2 stone walls. Or will the signal be so weak or non existant that it would not be worth it?
     
  12. blue68f100

    blue68f100 Notebook Virtuoso

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    The 5ghz does not penetrate objects as well as the 2.4ghz does. The 11n also requires a higher lever to maintain good speed. The reason it drops off further you get a lot faster than 11g.

    Another option is what I do, Is setup 2 AP (1 - 11n, 1 - 11g). You can use 2.4 for both (if you want) just set on to use low ch the other high. I'm a firm believer that you get better performance using AP vs Wireless Routers. AP normally have the same CPU and RAM but do not have to handle router routing functions. I use SMB wired routers which do not bomb when pushed, more advanced functions not found in most residential routers.
     
  13. David

    David NBR Random Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    I'm currently using the WRT610N Ver 2 w/ the latest firmware, and from my experience, it's quite pathetic when you're broadcasting both 2.4GHz and 5GHz with moderate to heavy internet use. The router tends drop the 2.4GHz band every 5 minutes or so. The same thing happened even after I exchanged the unit for a new one.
     
  14. blue68f100

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    The problem you describe is just firmware issues. With the 11n spec ratified, you may get an update soon that may correct the problem.
     
  15. johnw91498

    johnw91498 Notebook Consultant

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    The 5ghz range is way less than 30ft. My PS3 was only about 12-15 feet away and the signal was pathetic. I highly doubt you'll even get a signal at 30 feet. Much less through 2 walls.

    I'm waiting till next year or beyond until the 5ghz band matures a bit before buying a dual band router.
     
  16. jerry66

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    Agree on the 610 , that is why I got the 3700 . Not sure how 5 ghz will do through 2 stone walls , mine is 30 ft through 2 wood plaster stucco walls , Streams very well to the bridge with the xbox ps3 and media computer , my dlink 825 , link 600and 610 n would drop the signal constantly , would need reboots almost every day .
    Dlink releases lots of firmware , mostly crap then more crap , linksys released 2 firmware updates for 600n over 4 years none worked great ! and 3 for 610n in the last 2 years . I just hope netgear releases FUNCTIONING firmware when needed , or to add services .
     
  17. jerry66

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    the 320 is not simultanious dual band and 400 not GB, and looking at ALL the test it only outperforms the 3700 in1 0r 2 positions in all the tests
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  18. aidil

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    I'm using WRT320N set as 5GHz band wireless n - 40MHz (only). It penetrates well from my living room through 1 partition wall (2 gypsum boards/plasterboards per side) and 1 Japanese style paper door to my study located 9-10 meters away. The connection speed reported by Vista Wireless Network Connection Status fluctuates up to 300Mbps, but mostly steadies at 270Mbps. My laptops are using Intel WiFi Link 5300 and 4965AGN.

    Gee... Sorry to hear that. I read good reports of this WRT610N Version 2.0 in the Linksys forum, mainly concerning problems of the Version 1.0. Hope the next f/w solves your problem.

    The thing that I'm concerning though is its 5GHz performance. Is it also that bad? Cause I was reading that it might use the same engine as WRT320N which is in my case performing very well set to operate as wireless n - 40MHz at 5GHz (only).

    I was to opt for WNDR3700 or WRT610N version 2.0 to replace my 1 year old WRT310N because I needed the 5GHz band due to crowded 2.4GHz freq in my building, but those test results from SmallNetBuilder made me rethink the option of using 2 separate wireless routers for each band. So, I ended up buying WRT320N, set it for wireless n - 40MHz at 5GHz (only), and use it together with WRT310N set for wireless g only.
     
  19. David

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    From what i'm experiencing, the 5GHz can get a better signal compared with the 2.4GHz most of the time. At far indoors distances (30+ feet), the 5GHz signal is still stronger, but the wifi speed is slower than the 2.4GHz.
     
  20. aidil

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    Do you mean although the 5GHz signals reach your laptop stronger but the speed is lower than the 2.4GHz?

    My laptops with Intel WiFi Link 5300 (including when previously were still using Intel 5100 and Dell Wireless 1510) can only connect to my WRT310N set to operate at (2.4GHz) 40MHz channel up to 270Mbps, never 300Mbps. But with WRT320N set as 5GHz 40MHz (same security method are used for both WRT310N and WRT320N), the speed is up to 300Mbps.
     
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